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Man sent to prison in Kansas for inability to pay medical bills.

Rival

Rival

se Dex me saut.
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Your medical system would be a complete joke if they weren't serious.
 
bobhikes

bobhikes

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David1967 said:
Apparently the medical industry in the U.S.A. is the new Mafia. There is no excuse for this. Thoughts?

Jailed for $280: The return of debtors' prisons

'I was scared to death': Patients jailed over unpaid medical debt in rural Kansas
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Its more than just Kansas

Although the U.S. abolished debtors' prisons in the 1830s, more than a third of U.S. states allow the police to haul people in who don't pay all manner of debts, from bills for health care services to credit card and auto loans

Yet Illinois isn't the only state where residents get locked up for owing money. A 2010 report by the American Civil Liberties Union that focused on only five states -- Georgia, Louisiana, Michigan, Ohio, and Washington -- found that people were being jailed at "increasingly alarming rates" over legal debts.

With Medical Bills Skyrocketing, More Hospitals Are Suing for Payment
 
Saint Frankenstein

Saint Frankenstein

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bobhikes said:
Its more than just Kansas

Although the U.S. abolished debtors' prisons in the 1830s, more than a third of U.S. states allow the police to haul people in who don't pay all manner of debts, from bills for health care services to credit card and auto loans

Yet Illinois isn't the only state where residents get locked up for owing money. A 2010 report by the American Civil Liberties Union that focused on only five states -- Georgia, Louisiana, Michigan, Ohio, and Washington -- found that people were being jailed at "increasingly alarming rates" over legal debts.

With Medical Bills Skyrocketing, More Hospitals Are Suing for Payment
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Eww, I must leave Ohio ASAP.
 
Heyo

Heyo

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bobhikes said:
Its more than just Kansas

Although the U.S. abolished debtors' prisons in the 1830s, more than a third of U.S. states allow the police to haul people in who don't pay all manner of debts, from bills for health care services to credit card and auto loans

Yet Illinois isn't the only state where residents get locked up for owing money. A 2010 report by the American Civil Liberties Union that focused on only five states -- Georgia, Louisiana, Michigan, Ohio, and Washington -- found that people were being jailed at "increasingly alarming rates" over legal debts.

With Medical Bills Skyrocketing, More Hospitals Are Suing for Payment
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The private prison industry gets money, the health care industry gets money and, by letting the prisoners work for cents per hour, slavery gets re-instated through the back door so the Confederation is happy, too. A win-win-win situation. /s
 
Stevicus

Stevicus

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David1967 said:
Apparently the medical industry in the U.S.A. is the new Mafia. There is no excuse for this. Thoughts?

'I was scared to death': Patients jailed over unpaid medical debt in rural Kansas
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This is absolutely outrageous. Everyone involved in this, from the doctors to the bill collectors to the bankers to the lawyers and the judges, should all be locked up for the rest of their lives. Force is the only language people like that understand. There's no other way to solve this problem.
 
Nakosis

Nakosis

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David1967 said:
Apparently the medical industry in the U.S.A. is the new Mafia. There is no excuse for this. Thoughts?

'I was scared to death': Patients jailed over unpaid medical debt in rural Kansas
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So he was put in jail for missing his court date, not his debt. Still kind of a sneaky way of getting a debt paid.
Unfortunate the state assembly allow the law to pass. Hopefully someone will appeal the law up to the SCOTUS for constitutionality.

Real question to me is why is the cost of health care so high. Never seem to find a good answer for that.

Insurance companies pool everyone's money so there is/was a large pool of money to draw from. Everyone can charge higher prices. Charge each other higher prices then justify their own high prices as the cost of doing business.

The government needs to figure out a way to control the medical costs, not just funnel more money into it.
 
Ouroboros

Ouroboros

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Nakosis said:
Real question to me is why is the cost of health care so high. Never seem to find a good answer for that.
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Yeah. Too many hands in the pot maybe?

Also, insurance companies aren't run on the basis to actually cover the insurer, but rather to grow the money they get from premiums. Anything they can do to reduce payouts will have a positive change to their stock prices.
 
Ouroboros

Ouroboros

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SigurdReginson said:
We already pay far more for health care than any other nation on earth thanks to our healthcare being privatized. Maybe we need to start looking at other options that have been proven to work.
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Are you suggesting socialized medicine? Oh dear. You commie!!! :D
 
Ouroboros

Ouroboros

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Heyo said:
The private prison industry gets money, the health care industry gets money and, by letting the prisoners work for cents per hour, slavery gets re-instated through the back door so the Confederation is happy, too. A win-win-win situation. /s
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So true though! Also, consider that there's a large amount of private owned prisons as well.

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Rereading the post and response. I didn't see you already said "private prison industry". lol. Goes to show what happens when I post while being sick and in pain. :D
 
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Revoltingest

Revoltingest

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David1967 said:
Apparently the medical industry in the U.S.A. is the new Mafia. There is no excuse for this. Thoughts?

'I was scared to death': Patients jailed over unpaid medical debt in rural Kansas
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I'd read that article several days ago, & I wondered how long
it would take for the title to make its way over to RF. The guy
initially got in trouble for not showing up to a court hearing.
P*ss off the judge, & law goes out the window as they exact
vengeance.
But that wouldn't make for good clickbait.
Of course, this is not to justify a heinous court system.

Btw, modern debtor's prison does still exist. It's run by an outfit
called Friend Of The Court. Usually it's husbands who can't
or won't pay alimony or child support.
 
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Revoltingest

Revoltingest

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Heyo said:
The private prison industry gets money, the health care industry gets money and, by letting the prisoners work for cents per hour, slavery gets re-instated through the back door so the Confederation is happy, too. A win-win-win situation. /s
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I tried to find which prison he was sent to.
How do you know it was a private one?
 
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