Still don’t think white privilege exist?

[Augustus]

Then why in the damn hell would a woman tell a cop "I'm a thoroughbred, white, clean, woman" and even after the damn cop asked her what did she mean by that she stated: "You’re a cop, you should know what that means." If not white privilege then why in the hell would she say that?

You seem unable to distinguish between a drunk person feeling entitled on multiple accounts, and evidence that she clearly got preferential treatment based purely on her race.

Are you a researcher? I am and i'm aware of certain research subject not having enough evidence and needing replication but your immediate dismissal intrigues me and so therefore I must ask if you do research or belong to any particular peer reviewed study?

You are the first person to demand others provide sources, so practice what you preach.

In a field with around 50% error rates the prudent course of action is to assume all studies are false until you have good reason to believe otherwise, wouldn't you agree?

There are several examples of white privilege along with implicit racial bias I cannot list them all here. This woman in the video and her subsequent comment, is an example of the existence of white privilege and what I believe to be white privilege.

You can't prove trends with anecdotal examples.

If someone waved a magic wand and black people were given preferential treatment you would still be able to find countless examples of 'white privilege' and 'discrimination' against black people due to natural variance in outcomes.

If you judge every unknown situation purely on the outcome you will massively overestimate the degree and extent of privilege/prejudice, and could even create a trend where none existed.

Job applications with names clearly associated with certain ethnic groups are less likely to receive a response than those with 'neutral' names. One study showed a 'white' application might get 25/100 replies and a 'black' application might get 10/100.

There is clearly discrimination overall, but using your logic, the black applicant should assume every rejection (90/100) must necessarily be due to racism, whereas in reality 15/100 were due to racism. You have jumped from 15 racist incidents to 90.

Even if you know the trend exists, without clear and specific evidence you can't identify which rejection was caused by racism, or if you want to look at it the other way, which interview was gained by 'white privilege'. If you judge based on outcome alone though you assume every interview is 'white privilege' and every rejection 'racism', which is fallacious.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

I dispute the idea of "white privilege" in this day.

So you don't think historically given what has happened in the United States, and elsewhere, given that Eurocentric standards of beauty are the template of how we see physical aesthetics, given that there are instances where whites are heavily favored globally that white privilege doesn't exist?

 

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

The NAACP isn't racist due to being exclusive as was created in an era which justified it's existences. One could argue that it is not longer necessary or needs to be exclusive but it is a stretch that it is racist.



The organization was taken over by David Duke... Now if say the NOI took over the NAACP there would be something to argue about but that isn't the case.

It is racist as it is for the advancement of a certain race. It works with the Southern Poverty Law Center in getting the Confederate monuments taken down. That same Southern Poverty Law Center declares the NAAWP racist and a hate organization.

It just depends on which race you are trying to advance that gets you declared 'racist' and 'hateful'.

Good-Ole-Rebel

 

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

This seems like as good of place as any to place to start:

Let me first say that some people of all races are racist. I have seen racial discrimination by landlords of all races. This means that there is a chance that if you go to rent a place you will be denied for no other reason than your race. This is true even for white people.

However, it is also true that the chance of this discrimination is not equal across all races. Now this may be due to the larger numbers of white landlords/property managers, or it may simply because landlords as a group (including landlords of color) are more likely to discriminate against non-white people. This doesn't mean that landlords are more likely to discriminate than not discriminate. It just means that when we look at large populations we see a trend emerge. That trend is that it is statistically easier for whites to find housing than non-whites.

This doesn't mean that it is or would be easier for you to find housing because you are white, though it merits reflection on your part about how race might have, did, or does play a role. But remember for every one landlord that does discriminate we can find a larger group that does not.

So given this statistical difference, what exactly are you claiming are the statistical differences that compose "black privilege?"

Perhaps it is easier to find scholarships for which to apply? Perhaps it is more socially acceptable to focus on race based help?

Were white people denied loans and homeownership on a large scale based on their race (you do realize this is one of the main ways to improve socioeconomic status and to transfer wealth to future generations)? Were white people denied entrance to colleges on a large scale based on their race? Were white people forced to attend schools with insufficient funds and materials based on their race? Were white people inhumanely treated by police based on their race? Were white people unfairly accused, tried and sentenced based on their race? Now I am sure you have a black friend whose family never experienced one bit of any of the disadvantages that these historical, statistical truths bring. Just as I am sure you can list a white friend who never had anything, whose family was denied loans, whose family went to jail, maybe were even unfairly accused tried and sentenced. Yes that white friend has had more disadvantages than that black friend. But when we are discussing privilege we are not talking about individuals.

We are discussing trends based on overall behaviors and historic precedent. So if you want to discuss "black privilege," let us do so. Then we can compare that to actual white privilege and see which has larger effects on a macro level.

Too many people want to dismiss privilege because they see it as some elitist SJW rant. So lets discuss it and see if you still feel that it is important to say "what about black privilege."

I have already said it. The NAACP is a racist organization. It is for the advancement of the black race. You can belong to the NAACP and not be declared a racist. The NAAWP is a racist organization. It is for the advancement of the white race. If you belong to it, you are deemed a racist and hate monger by the Southern Poverty Law Center. (SPLC) Why? Because it has to do with the white race. Black privilege

Affirmative Action is a privilege. And racist. It places blacks and minorities in positions, whether it be in schools or jobs, ahead of whites, simply because of race. Black privilege.

These are trends. The black race can tear down Southern monuments and it is viewed as good. And at the same time they can erect monuments to MLK. All is viewed as holy and good. Black privilege. What if the white race tore some of those MLK statues down? The biggest riots and claims of white racism would explode for weeks, if not longer. Black Privilege.

You can be black and racist and it is OK. The SPLC walks lock step with the NAACP. Privilege.

Good-Ole-Rebel

 

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

Lol privilege?

California hasn’t had affirmative action in over twenty years. I went to USC and beat out a lot of so-called “High IQ white folks” because, well, I did the work on my own while working full-time at my job. I never had help buddy I’m sorry you’re not academically as accomplished as I am but there is still time to go to junior college.

By the way what the hell is “a black?” You see, that’s why good ole’ white folk like ya self ain’t graduate from no college cause y’all ain’t got no grammar skills (in my southern voice).

Good for them. That doesn't change the purpose of affirmative action.

Glad to see you made your grades and made it without affirmative action. As you should have. That doesn't change the purpose of affirmative action.

Glad to hear you are more accomplished than I academically. Congratulations. None of which changes the Black Privilege afforded blacks under affirmative action. None of which changes the Black Privilege of being accepted as racists and hate mongering against white people as proven by the acceptance of the NAACP as not a racist organization.

See, you don't like being called 'privileged'....do you?

Good-Ole-Rebel

 

[Curious George]

I have already said it. The NAACP is a racist organization. It is for the advancement of the black race. You can belong to the NAACP and not be declared a racist. The NAAWP is a racist organization. It is for the advancement of the white race. If you belong to it, you are deemed a racist and hate monger by the Southern Poverty Law Center. (SPLC) Why? Because it has to do with the white race. Black privilege

Affirmative Action is a privilege. And racist. It places blacks and minorities in positions, whether it be in schools or jobs, ahead of whites, simply because of race. Black privilege.

These are trends. The black race can tear down Southern monuments and it is viewed as good. And at the same time they can erect monuments to MLK. All is viewed as holy and good. Black privilege. What if the white race tore some of those MLK statues down? The biggest riots and claims of white racism would explode for weeks, if not longer. Black Privilege.

You can be black and racist and it is OK. The SPLC walks lock step with the NAACP. Privilege.

Good-Ole-Rebel

Really that is all?

So your some total of "black privilege" is that:

1. imore socially acceptable organizations exist that advance people of color than do organizations that advance white people;

2. Affirmative action

3. It is more socially acceptable to tear down statues of white leaders than black leaders?

Surely you can dig deeper than that?

Now lets compare what you have to white privilege.

Historically, black Americans have faced myriad forms of discrimination that have deteriorated family structures, denied them access to tools of financial success, and have barred them from accessing social and political circles. These historical precedents have caused ripple effects that have greatly contributed to a disproportionate number of black people living in poverty, coming from broken families, and not being represented in politics. In fact, it is largely because of this that policies such as "affirmative action" (number two on your whopping list of 3) were created in the first place.

Affirmative action in many ways failed and we do not see it or quotas imposed by it today. We do however see remnants of it in college selection. Now in college even in the face of this "discrimination," that doesn't exist in many colleges, still have disproportionately more white students than black students. So while the story goes that whites are so oppressed, the truth is that whites still benefit more from the college system as is than do black students.

Regarding number 1 on your list, we don't see a socially acceptable NAAWP because it is not needed. Whites today are statistically less likely to face discrimination in getting housing, in getting hired for jobs, in accessing/navigating the court system, in obtaining political office, in having their votes counted.

Now, if you want to remake our country so that there is a disproportionate amount of black landlords, black CEOs, a disproportionate amount of black college graduates, give black people a disproportionate amount of Americas wealth, and make a disproportionate amount of white people live in poverty, and a disproportionate amount of white kids go to underfunded schools, I will even donate $5 to your NAAWP. Until then, give a thought to why the NAACP existed and still exists.

Regarding your last point, i don't know what to say. I am pretty sure that people push for monuments to be torn down because of the actions that were taken and how those actions are portrayed. It is hardly a matter of "black privilege"

So for those keeping score at home we have white privilege amounting to statistical advantages of a lower probability of facing discrimination socially, financially, and politically and we have black privilege amounting to some level of preference in some colleges and it being socially acceptable to join an organization whose mission advances people who look similar to you in skin tone.

Yeah that "black privilege" is a doozy.

 

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

Really that is all?

So your some total of "black privilege" is that:

1. imore socially acceptable organizations exist that advance people of color than do organizations that advance white people;

2. Affirmative action

3. It is more socially acceptable to tear down statues of white leaders than black leaders?

Surely you can dig deeper than that?

Now lets compare what you have to white privilege.

Historically, black Americans have faced myriad forms of discrimination that have deteriorated family structures, denied them access to tools of financial success, and have barred them from accessing social and political circles. These historical precedents have caused ripple effects that have greatly contributed to a disproportionate number of black people living in poverty, coming from broken families, and not being represented in politics. In fact, it is largely because of this that policies such as "affirmative action" (number two on your whopping list of 3) were created in the first place.

Affirmative action in many ways failed and we do not see it or quotas imposed by it today. We do however see remnants of it in college selection. Now in college even in the face of this "discrimination," that doesn't exist in many colleges, still have disproportionately more white students than black students. So while the story goes that whites are so oppressed, the truth is that whites still benefit more from the college system as is than do black students.

Regarding number 1 on your list, we don't see a socially acceptable NAAWP because it is not needed. Whites today are statistically less likely to face discrimination in getting housing, in getting hired for jobs, in accessing/navigating the court system, in obtaining political office, in having their votes counted.

Now, if you want to remake our country so that there is a disproportionate amount of black landlords, black CEOs, a disproportionate amount of black college graduates, give black people a disproportionate amount of Americas wealth, and make a disproportionate amount of white people live in poverty, and a disproportionate amount of white kids go to underfunded schools, I will even donate $5 to your NAAWP. Until then, give a thought to why the NAACP existed and still exists.

Regarding your last point, i don't know what to say. I am pretty sure that people push for monuments to be torn down because of the actions that were taken and how those actions are portrayed. It is hardly a matter of "black privilege"

So for those keeping score at home we have white privilege amounting to statistical advantages of a lower probability of facing discrimination socially, financially, and politically and we have black privilege amounting to some level of preference in some colleges and it being socially acceptable to join an organization whose mission advances people who look similar to you in skin tone.

Yeah that "black privilege" is a doozy.

I don't need more. That is black privilege. And the more the blacks can create more privilege, they will. Like I said, the NAACP in lock step with the SPLC. A racist organization in step with an organization that labels racist organizations. Funny how that privilege worked out.

O yeah, blame someone else for all your problems. "The white man just keeping me down. The reason I can't get ahead is the white man". Affirmative Action failed for the same reason 'equality' under the law failed the black people. They as a people, as a race, self destruct. There are blacks who rise above it all as individuals, as they can and should. But the race as a whole will not. When it does let me know. You can get a house cheap in Detroit. Just ax um.

Of course whites benefit from the college system. We created it. Where would we be if we were waiting for the Africans to create a college system?

Your opinion that the NAAWP is not needed is meaningless. Whether you think it is needed or not is immaterial. Many do. You simply project your own black racism. Actually the NAACP is not needed today. Yep, that is my white racism. But, the NAACP needs racism to exist. It must stir the pot else there is no need for it. So they busy themselves destroying the white Southern mans monuments because the Federal govt. will always support them and everyone is too scared of being called a racist to oppose them. Too eat up with 'white guilt'. Foolish. The NAACP keeps the racism alive so it can continue to exist.


Federal govt., NAACP, SPLC .....black privilege.

Good-Ole-Rebel

 

[David1967]

So you don't think historically given what has happened in the United States, and elsewhere, given that Eurocentric standards of beauty are the template of how we see physical aesthetics, given that there are instances where whites are heavily favored globally that white privilege doesn't exist?

Historically? Absolutely. Today? Sometimes, granted, but not anywhere near on the scale of say, 40 or 50 years ago. The woman you are using as an example is most likely just not a very nice person. Sure racism exists and unfortunately probably always will. (I hope I'm wrong about that BTW). My thoughts as we move forward is that this type of thing will diminish (at least in this country) due to positive interaction between people of different races. I think we are seeing that. For instance, I grew up in a small redneck town in southern Oklahoma. (Unfortunately) Even in the public school it was not uncommon to hear certain teachers refer to black folks using the N word. Now that doesn't happen and I never hear younger folks in these parts use that word or shy away from befriending another due to their race. Things are improving IMO.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

None of which changes the Black Privilege afforded blacks under affirmative action.

I guess you didn't read this:

Affirmative Action Has Helped White Women More Than Anyone | TIME.com

None of which changes the Black Privilege of being accepted as racists and hate mongering against white people

LOL even though whites and other ethnic groups are very much a part of the NAACP...LOL

See, you don't like being called 'privileged'....do you?

I am privileged actually. I'm privileged because I'm able to communicate to you on a contraption that many across the world never heard of. I'm privileged because I have a job and able to feed myself whereas others cannot. I'm privileged because I'm a man, and don't suffer the same issues as women in the workplace.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

Today? Sometimes, granted, but not anywhere near on the scale of say, 40 or 50 years ago.

The idea is not about the extent of whether white privilege exists the question is DOES IT EXIST? The answer is yes, whether it exist moderately or extensively. For example part of white privilege is the adoption of eurocentric standards of beauty. The idea that being "pale skinned" blonde hair, Caucasian features are considered a model standard of beauty not to mention how such a complexion a features also relate to how one's class is interlinked (See:Indian Caste System And Skin Color Go Hand In Hand: Study). As opposed to the idea that having darker skin relates to ugliness, and poverty and it also determines how people treat you (See: Implicit and explicit prejudice and interracial interaction).

The woman you are using as an example is most likely just not a very nice person.

Perhaps but the fact that she recognizes her privilege albeit intoxicated and inebriated, demonstrates that there are women at least this woman know that their race is a benefit. Haven't you heard of the term "drunk minds talk sober thoughts?"

My thoughts as we move forward is that this type of thing will diminish (at least in this country) due to positive interaction between people of different races.

The only way racism will die is if me, you, and people in the 00's as well as the past die and that the future will be better.

As a white man I encourage you to listen to the sister at the end @ 3:50 and I use her comments for every white person on these boards here

 

[columbus]

Then why in the damn hell would a woman tell a cop "I'm a thoroughbred, white, clean, woman" and even after the damn cop asked her what did she mean by that she stated: "You’re a cop, you should know what that means." If not white privilege then why in the hell would she say that?

This reminds me of the problem a buddy of mine faced.

When an employee was told he was no longer needed, because he blew off work 3 times during his two week probation period, he claimed "You can't fire me! I'm a black man who is paying his child support."

The black guy complained to the NAACP, who investigated the complaint, and had to explain that getting a paycheck doesn't mean that you can go on a three day drunk without consequences.

I know that this happened because I was on the board of the local branch when the Action Committee reported the incident. And I knew the guy who fired him.
Tom

 

[Epic Beard Man]

Very good intro to this discussion

 

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

I guess you didn't read this:

Affirmative Action Has Helped White Women More Than Anyone | TIME.com



LOL even though whites and other ethnic groups are very much a part of the NAACP...LOL



I am privileged actually. I'm privileged because I'm able to communicate to you on a contraption that many across the world never heard of. I'm privileged because I have a job and able to feed myself whereas others cannot. I'm privileged because I'm a man, and don't suffer the same issues as women in the workplace.

None of which changes that 'affirmative action' is black privilege.

That doesn't change the fact that the NAACP is a racist organization and for the black people. Any stupid whites that are part of it are supporting the advancement of the black people. Not their own. Racist. And, black privilege.

Yes, you are privileged. You know why? Because your people were brought over as slaves to this country. Look at how many blacks in this country are privileged in being here instead of Africa. You say, how is that a privilege being brought over as slaves? Well, yall wern't coming any other way. I mean those canoes may get you down a river, but they don't get you across an ocean. But, the white man just keeps holdin me down.

Why is it that blacks must always appeal to women for their plight? When in reality you don't give a rat's .... about them, other then to use them. You need the support for your black racism. Black privilege.

Good-Ole-Rebel

 

[Curious George]

I don't need more. That is black privilege. And the more the blacks can create more privilege, they will. Like I said, the NAACP in lock step with the SPLC. A racist organization in step with an organization that labels racist organizations. Funny how that privilege worked out.

O yeah, blame someone else for all your problems. "The white man just keeping me down. The reason I can't get ahead is the white man". Affirmative Action failed for the same reason 'equality' under the law failed the black people. They as a people, as a race, self destruct. There are blacks who rise above it all as individuals, as they can and should. But the race as a whole will not. When it does let me know. You can get a house cheap in Detroit. Just ax um.

Of course whites benefit from the college system. We created it. Where would we be if we were waiting for the Africans to create a college system?

Your opinion that the NAAWP is not needed is meaningless. Whether you think it is needed or not is immaterial. Many do. You simply project your own black racism. Actually the NAACP is not needed today. Yep, that is my white racism. But, the NAACP needs racism to exist. It must stir the pot else there is no need for it. So they busy themselves destroying the white Southern mans monuments because the Federal govt. will always support them and everyone is too scared of being called a racist to oppose them. Too eat up with 'white guilt'. Foolish. The NAACP keeps the racism alive so it can continue to exist.


Federal govt., NAACP, SPLC .....black privilege.

Good-Ole-Rebel

Given this response i can only imagine you want to p*ss in the wind. If you would like a discussion feel free to actually address my points.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

None of which changes that 'affirmative action' is black privilege.

I grow tiresome of this weak argument despite the facts.

That doesn't change the fact that the NAACP is a racist organization and for the black people.

Yes, it's a racist organization despite it being a multi-ethnic one. It's such a racist organization that even a white woman by the name of Rachel Dolezal headed the Spokane NAACP chapter. A white woman may I remind you that initially sued Howard University for racial discrimination because she was white. The same white woman who proclaimed later that she was really black highlighting the concept of being "trans-racial." Yes, it is a very racist organization.

Yes, you are privileged. You know why? Because your people were brought over as slaves to this country.

Now this is not only an offensive remark, but also a racist one. So my culture is privileged because my ancestors were brought over as chattel slaves, robbed of their heritage and tribal customs and religion. Hung and killed, mistreated as human beings and yet, my ethnic group is privileged all because of this? I admire an open racist like you. I have to hand it to you sir because you have my respect unlike the cowards on these boards that aren't as open as you are. With that, you have my respect.

Look at how many blacks in this country are privileged in being here instead of Africa.

Wow. But yet, on this forum I'm not surprised.

You say, how is that a privilege being brought over as slaves? Well, yall wern't coming any other way. I mean those canoes may get you down a river, but they don't get you across an ocean. But, the white man just keeps holdin me down.

So let me ask you something. Did you come here from Stormfront?

Why is it that blacks must always appeal to women for their plight?

Because the Creator endowed women with the most divine quality.

 

[We Never Know]

This has to be the most idiotic post I've read on this forum. I had issues with the OP in regards to modern issues but dear God...."Look at how many blacks in this country are privileged..." is the dumbest thing I have ever read on this forum.

I've been on this forum for near 15 years highlighting the racial disparity in terms of law enforcement of drug laws and the racial disparity therein. And discussing how the prosecution of those laws involves institutional racism. There is a search function I assume but I'm not going to waste my time with a fake as Rebel.

"Why must blacks appeal to their women".....non sequitur. Meaningless statement.

I wanted to make an argument against certain concepts of white privilege but came along and I just want to serve up a **** you and your racism.

edit: To the OP. I was also arrested numerous times for drug and alcohol violations. My experience was no different than those I ran with, many of whom were persons of color, while at the time who were actually involved in more serious crimes. But I chalk it up to a regional thing. But overall after that experience and researching the enforcement of drug laws in this nation and the incarceration rates of minorities for drug infractions....there is definitely a case of white privilege on an institutional level given that drug use and distribution was the same across all ethnic groups yet minority communities were and still are overpoliced on these issues and as well over incarcerated for the same crimes committed by whites.

Sorry I'm pissed off and drunk.

And I'm going to say it outright. Kind of pissed off because I've been banned from this forum for far less than this horse****. So now I just want to know if the reigns are unleashed. Because if I go full off on this tripped up piece of **** if I'm going to be banned yet again?

Rebel's posts are the most utter horse**** posts I've read on this forum.

Or did I miss a joke?

Racism in the U.S. is a problem. Sadly no one realizes others are guilty of it besides white people.
If there were a
-NAAWP(National Association for Advancement of White People)
-A showed staring all white people called whiteish
A tv2 channel called -WET(white entertainment TV)
-Scholarships only for white people
-etc....
They all would be shut down for being racist but yet it's ok for afro-americans to do/have the exact same things.

People need to quit playing the victim card and realize that current racism is a problem that happens to/involves every race.

PS. I'm Native American. IMO my race has had it worse than afro-americans.

Here's a dose of reality, why is there still a football team called "redskins" with an American Indian as their logo?

 

[columbus]

It's such a racist organization that even a white woman by the name of Rachel Dolezal headed the Spokane NAACP chapter.

Didn't she get fired for being white or something?
Tom

 

[We Never Know]

I grow tiresome of this weak argument despite the facts.



Yes, it's a racist organization despite it being a multi-ethnic one. It's such a racist organization that even a white woman by the name of Rachel Dolezal headed the Spokane NAACP chapter. A white woman may I remind you that initially sued Howard University for racial discrimination because she was white. The same white woman who proclaimed later that she was really black highlighting the concept of being "trans-racial." Yes, it is a very racist organization.



Now this is not only an offensive remark, but also a racist one. So my culture is privileged because my ancestors were brought over as chattel slaves, robbed of their heritage and tribal customs and religion. Hung and killed, mistreated as human beings and yet, my ethnic group is privileged all because of this? I admire an open racist like you. I have to hand it to you sir because you have my respect unlike the cowards on these boards that aren't as open as you are. With that, you have my respect.



Wow. But yet, on this forum I'm not surprised.



So let me ask you something. Did you come here from Stormfront?



Because the Creator endowed women with the most divine quality.

How many Caucasian people, Asian people, Native American people does the NAACP come to the rescue of to secure their rights and race?

 

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

I grow tiresome of this weak argument despite the facts.



Yes, it's a racist organization despite it being a multi-ethnic one. It's such a racist organization that even a white woman by the name of Rachel Dolezal headed the Spokane NAACP chapter. A white woman may I remind you that initially sued Howard University for racial discrimination because she was white. The same white woman who proclaimed later that she was really black highlighting the concept of being "trans-racial." Yes, it is a very racist organization.



Now this is not only an offensive remark, but also a racist one. So my culture is privileged because my ancestors were brought over as chattel slaves, robbed of their heritage and tribal customs and religion. Hung and killed, mistreated as human beings and yet, my ethnic group is privileged all because of this? I admire an open racist like you. I have to hand it to you sir because you have my respect unlike the cowards on these boards that aren't as open as you are. With that, you have my respect.



Wow. But yet, on this forum I'm not surprised.



So let me ask you something. Did you come here from Stormfront?



Because the Creator endowed women with the most divine quality.

No, I do not come from 'stormfront'.

Yes, my remark is racist. But just as I have said, the NAACP is racist. And their belief that the NAAWP is racist proves it. The NAAWP is racist. But so is the NAACP. It is just accepted racism in this country. That is the privilege of the black man. He can be racist and not be viewed as racist.

I too see the Creator involved in this. And I believe God used the institution of slavery to get blacks to America as a means of delivering many from the condition they were in in Africa, and their future descendants. And, as a means of bringing salvation to them, delivering them from the heathen religions they had. This is why I was serious when I said, they were not coming over in a log canoe. They had to come another way.

Did it come at a cost of lives and suffering. Yes. What doesn't? The oceans are full white peoples bones who dared to cross the oceans looking for trade routes and a place to live where they would not be persecuted. Then when the white people got here, they encountered the Indian, another race, and fought and killed and died so that they could have this land.

I don't have any problem with you a black man being racist. Being for your race. Wanting to further your race. No problem at all. I have a problem with blacks not wanting me to be a racist. Being for my race. Wanting to further my race. As I have said, when you, or other minority races, do these things, it is always labeled cultural and good. When the white man does them, it is racism or white privilege.

Good-Ole-Rebel

 

[Epic Beard Man]

Yes, my remark is racist.

Your opinion towards the NAACP is a separate entity, however your remark towards me and how I ought to be grateful because my ancestors were privileged to be enslaved is another. That was an unnecessary thing you did. Regardless of what you think I ought to be grateful for, no human being on God's planet deserves to be in bondage and be robbed of their humanity. Your comment sought to justify that. Say what you will about the NAACP, but when you make comments like that towards me it turns the conversation entirely in a different direction.

And I believe God used the institution of slavery to get blacks to America as a means of delivering many from the condition they were in in Africa, and their future descendants.

You don't know that. Neither one of us are God, and neither one of us know the metaphysical reasons behind the Trans-Atlantic slave trade. Your comment is an attempt to justify brutality and that is wrong. Notice nobody is coming to your defense on this?

The oceans are full white peoples bones who dared to cross the oceans looking for trade routes and a place to live where they would not be persecuted.

The oceans are also filled with the bones of fish, crustaceans, algae, and other life forms. Crossing the vast body of water is not unique to white people.

I don't have any problem with you a black man being racist. Being for your race.

I belong to the human species, the Homo Sapien, in which in that category I happen to be in a sub-category ethnically called African (or African-American) who shares a phenotype like that of the people on the continent of Africa. Race is an irrelevant term to me, but for purposes of this thread yes, I am of the black race. However I have a problem with your comment because it shares the likeness of many institutionalized white men from prison.

Wanting to further your race. No problem at all.

Again, something the Aryan brotherhood in prison say to their own ingrates.

As I have said, when you, or other minority races, do these things, it is always labeled cultural and good.

Do what exactly? Show pride? Have cultural organizations? What?

When the white man does them, it is racism or white privilege.

This thread is about some drunk white girl who thought it was necessary to tell a cop "hey, I'm a thoroughbred, clean, white girl" which she felt because of her being white she has some sort of privilege in getting out of being arrested. You decided to take this discussions three-hundred and sixty degrees the other way.