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THE HUNT, new movie

Terry Sampson

Well-Known Member
It sounds a bit like a short story we read in middle school called "The Most Dangerous Game," first published in 1924. It's a great story. I think they made it into a terrible movie, as well.

Thanks for introducing that historical note. The Most Dangerous Game - Wikipedia

In the 1924 version, a big-game hunter from New York City falls off a yacht and swims to what seems to be an abandoned and isolated island in the Caribbean, where he is hunted by a Russian aristocrat. The story is inspired by the big-game hunting safaris in Africa and South America that were particularly fashionable among wealthy Americans in the 1920s.

[Wikipedia] Adaptations and in popular culture
Film
The first major film adaption was RKO Pictures' film released in 1932, The Most Dangerous Game. Joel McCrea stars as Rainsford; Leslie Banks portrays Zaroff. The adaptation by James Ashmore Creelman adds two other principal characters, brother-and-sister pair Eve Trowbridge (Fay Wray) and Martin Trowbridge (Robert Armstrong), who are castaways from a shipwreck. The Most Dangerous Game was co-directed by Ernest B. Schoedsack and Irving Pichel; also with a score by Max Steiner, the film was a favorite project of producer Merian C. Cooper. The production shared several sets with King Kong (1933), a simultaneous RKO project that also involved Schoedsack, Cooper, Wray, Armstrong, Creelman, and Steiner. The Most Dangerous Game was a modest success.[8][9][10]:51

RKO produced a remake titled A Game of Death (1945), directed by Robert Wise, from a screenplay Norman Houston wrote. This film stars John Loder and Audrey Long, with Edgar Barrier as the mad hunter.[10]:206 In order to keep with events of that time, A Game of Death changed Zaroff into "Erich Kreiger", a Nazi, and was set in the aftermath of the Second World War.[11]

In 1956, United Artists released another film adaptation, Run for the Sun, starring Richard Widmark, Trevor Howard and Jane Greer.[12][10]:206 In 1961, the film Bloodlust! was released, directed by Ralph Brooke and starring Wilton Graff as the Zaroff-type character, and Robert Reed as the leader of a band of youths who become stranded on the island.[13] 1972's The Woman Hunt starring John Ashley and Sid Haig made for Roger Corman's New World Pictures is an unofficial remake of the story.[14]

Also in 1972, The Suckers, tells a sexploitation version of the story, with the hunter using models as his prey.[15] In 1973, The Perverse Countess was released.[16] The 1982 Australian film Turkey Shoot has similar elements.[17]

The 1987 film, Slave Girls from Beyond Infinity, transports the story to an alien world using scantily clad women as the hunted and a mad scientist, Zed as the Zaroff character.[16][18]

John Woo's first Hollywood directorial effort, the Jean-Claude Van Damme thriller Hard Target (1993), was loosely based on the same story. The locale was shifted to 1990s New Orleans, with homeless Vietnam war veterans voluntarily serving (in return for potential payment from a shady businessman) as human prey.

In Surviving the Game (1994), a homeless man is hired as a survival guide for a group of wealthy businessmen on a hunting trip in the mountains. He is unaware that they are killers who hunt humans for sport, and that he is their new prey. Directed by Ernest R. Dickerson, the film stars Rutger Hauer, Ice-T, and Charles S. Dutton.

The Pest (1997) is a comedic parody of the story, with German huntsman Gustav Shank accidentally bringing Puerto Rican teenage hustler Pestario "Pest" Vargas to his island instead of the skilled man he had intended to hunt, only to decide to hunt the Pest anyway due to his sheer obnoxiousness. Shank's ambition is to have a head of a warrior of every ethnicity in his Trophy Room. He also rigs the "game" by having his prey unknowingly drink a slow-acting poison before the hunt, making sure that they die even if they escape him.

In The Eliminator (2004), seven captured people are hunted at night for sport on an island as a betting game for the wealthy.

The 2019 film, The Hunt follows a similar premise.

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  • From the OP, "I have no doubt that it will embolden some lefty ANTIFA types to more violence."
    • Say what?? Antifa-types emboldened to more violence by a goofy, violence-filled movie about purportedly-deplorable prey eliminating their purportedly-leftist elite hunters? Gee, who'd have thought Antifa-types could be so easily emboldened?
  • From the OP, "Violence and threats of violence have become part of the hardcore lefts playbook."
    • Monkey-see, monkey-do?
    • Back in the early 2000s, when that black senator from Illinois became President, I was dumbfounded by a Texan 1st-cousin's assurance that "There's going to be a war". I finally had to unfriend about a 130 of my FB friends to preserve what was left of my sanity. Do I have to "ignore" most of RF to do the same?
  • From the OP, "If you are a politician and disagree with them, you are fair game to harassment, or worse. Ask Steve Scalise."
    • Or just ask "The Squad" [AOC, Omar, Tlaib, and Pressley].
      • Oh wait, ... wrong examples. Besides, death threats against any of them are "fake news."
  • From the OP, "The hunt is the ultimate lefty dream, as our society becomes more debased. I think we are about circling the drain now, how long before we go down?"
    • "Ultimate lefty dream"??? More like the "ultimate righty nightmare", I'd say.
    • Wisdom of Solomon 17:11 ... Someone with a guilty conscience will always imagine things to be worse than they really are. 12 Fear is nothing but the failure to use the help that reason gives. 13 When you lack the confidence to rely on reason, you give in to the fears caused by ignorance.


@Kangaroo Feathers
 
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Shiranui117

Pronounced Shee-ra-noo-ee
Premium Member
As far as I can tell. And that's why I'm also bringing up God Bless America, because it's a "Liberal with a gun," and the protagonist does kill Conservatives and Republicans in it. So it does happen. And God Bless America is hilarious. Especially when their spoof of Fred Phelps gets hit with a car and thrown off a cliff. Or maybe it's just vicarious gratification more than comedy?
I didn't see too much comedy in the trailer for The Hunt. It seemed much more like an action-thriller.

? I've watched the trailers. Not a single one referred to the people as 'deplorables.'
I think the trailer might have gotten pulled. But I'd imagine somebody managed to preserve the trailer.
 

Curious George

Veteran Member
I have been pretty unrelenting in my criticism of todayś society, and it´s major contribution to the violence we see today.

Here is a prime example.

In September a new movie, called THE HUNT will be released.

The premise is simple. Rich progressives legally hunt and murder Conservatives and Trump supporters.

From the clips I have seen, it is raw with violence.

It is supposedly a satire, and perhaps most viewers will understand that. However, I have no doubt that it will embolden some lefty ANTIFA types to more violence.

Violence and threats of violence have become part of the hardcore lefts playbook.

If you are a politician and disagree with them, you are fair game to harassment, or worse. Ask Steve Scalise.

I have not heard one prominent democrat criticize ANTIFA for their beating of a Conservative reporter in Portland. Portland, being a left wing city, allows ANTIFA to run wild. The police watched as a mob beat and seriously injured this man, and no arrests have ever been made.

The hunt is the ultimate lefty dream, as our society becomes more debased. I think we are about circling the drain now, how long before we go down ?
The post touches on an interesting subject: how art and entertainment reflect and affect our society.

Undoubtedly, our entertainment and art do both. But to what extent should we or can we act when the affect is potentially deleterious? Is there a difference behind individual expression vs. That same expression when it comes from a government figure? How about individual expression vs. Some large organization?

I think the best course of actions is to demand transparency in works profiting from public consumption so it is clear from who and from where the message comes. I also think that we as a society need to have some focus on the consequence of actual behaviors depicted in our art and entertainment.

Our culture is not likely to change because a few movies are not made, pictures aren't painted, or books aren't written.

While it is easy to try and blame the latest musician, video game, or even politician for some act "proximate cause" is very different than "contributing factor." Whether we are discussing Trump's bigotry or the latest first person shooter we shouldn't jump so far as to claim causation. In many ways, these "contributing factors" are very much a symptom of the same problem that is at issue.

Wanting to lesson the violence, sexual exploitation and objectification, racism etc in our culture is something that many have wanted for a long time. I am not sure there is an easy answer on how to achieve this goal. Though, I think that education is paramount.
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
I think the trailer might have gotten pulled. But I'd imagine somebody managed to preserve the trailer.
Or the more realistic thing is right-wing Media made it up. If the movie Creator mentioned deplorables, there would be reference of that. Even if it was removed
 

shmogie

Well-Known Member
The post touches on an interesting subject: how art and entertainment reflect and affect our society.

Undoubtedly, our entertainment and art do both. But to what extent should we or can we act when the affect is potentially deleterious? Is there a difference behind individual expression vs. That same expression when it comes from a government figure? How about individual expression vs. Some large organization?

I think the best course of actions is to demand transparency in works profiting from public consumption so it is clear from who and from where the message comes. I also think that we as a society need to have some focus on the consequence of actual behaviors depicted in our art and entertainment.

Our culture is not likely to change because a few movies are not made, pictures aren't painted, or books aren't written.

While it is easy to try and blame the latest musician, video game, or even politician for some act "proximate cause" is very different than "contributing factor." Whether we are discussing Trump's bigotry or the latest first person shooter we shouldn't jump so far as to claim causation. In many ways, these "contributing factors" are very much a symptom of the same problem that is at issue.

Wanting to lesson the violence, sexual exploitation and objectification, racism etc in our culture is something that many have wanted for a long time. I am not sure there is an easy answer on how to achieve this goal. Though, I think that education is paramount.
You are right, the solution will not be easy to find.

My point is that as a culture violence is everywhere. I know for a fact it was much less in the past. I used to walk 2 -1/2 miles to school, part of it through orange groves. We all did it, girls and boys.

There is no parent in their right mind who would allow their fourth grader to do that now,

Hopalong Cassidy never killed any bad guy, he shot him in the arm.

Culturally, we accept violence. When was the last time that we were concerned about the slaughter, day in and day out of Chicago.

Something in our culture has gone radically wrong if you compare that of 1958 to today.

Sure we have all the whiz bang stuff from technology, but people live in fear.

Why ?
 

Saint Frankenstein

Gone
Premium Member
I didn't see too much comedy in the trailer for The Hunt. It seemed much more like an action-thriller.


I think the trailer might have gotten pulled. But I'd imagine somebody managed to preserve the trailer.
It's on YouTube:


They play trailers for it on TV, too.

It is a satire. Satire doesn't have to be slapstick for it to count. The Purge movies are also satire and also are not comedic. 1984 is also satiric. But you're correct that it's not humorous like God Bless America is. Blumhouse is known for straight-up horror films. I don't recall them putting out a funny movie.

As for the political issue, there is nothing political in the trailers I've seen. The "prey" are people from different walks of life. So there seems to be a fair amount of lies and misinformation going on about this movie.
 
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Saint Frankenstein

Gone
Premium Member
The post touches on an interesting subject: how art and entertainment reflect and affect our society.

Undoubtedly, our entertainment and art do both. But to what extent should we or can we act when the affect is potentially deleterious? Is there a difference behind individual expression vs. That same expression when it comes from a government figure? How about individual expression vs. Some large organization?

I think the best course of actions is to demand transparency in works profiting from public consumption so it is clear from who and from where the message comes. I also think that we as a society need to have some focus on the consequence of actual behaviors depicted in our art and entertainment.

Our culture is not likely to change because a few movies are not made, pictures aren't painted, or books aren't written.

While it is easy to try and blame the latest musician, video game, or even politician for some act "proximate cause" is very different than "contributing factor." Whether we are discussing Trump's bigotry or the latest first person shooter we shouldn't jump so far as to claim causation. In many ways, these "contributing factors" are very much a symptom of the same problem that is at issue.

Wanting to lesson the violence, sexual exploitation and objectification, racism etc in our culture is something that many have wanted for a long time. I am not sure there is an easy answer on how to achieve this goal. Though, I think that education is paramount.
The only research I know of saying that violent media increases aggression and violence is studies on children. So kids shouldn't watch much violent media (although I did and I managed not to be a murderer). But if an adult can't tell the difference between fiction and reality, they're delusional. I do not support censorship of art and fiction.
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
The only research I know of saying that violent media increases aggression and violence is studies on children. So kids shouldn't watch much violent media (although I did and I managed not to be a murderer). But if an adult can't tell the difference between fiction and reality, they're delusional. I do not support censorship of art and fiction.
It's proven that Fox News watchers have been inspired to carry out attacks. From being enraged by Fox propaganda.

The propaganda is worse today and extends to more people. Fox and far-right media will radicalize mentally unstable people.
His client, who was drunk when he made the threats, had committed the crimes “after a week of watching Fox News over and over.”
Did Binge-Watching Fox News Inspire This Man To Threaten Muslims? | HuffPost
 

Curious George

Veteran Member
The only research I know of saying that violent media increases aggression and violence is studies on children. So kids shouldn't watch much violent media (although I did and I managed not to be a murderer). But if an adult can't tell the difference between fiction and reality, they're delusional. I do not support censorship of art and fiction.
I wouldn't support censorship either. That would be an attempt at a bandaid fix. But that doesn't really address how to change culture.

It is not an easy task to change a culture.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
After days of seeming to focus on comforting mass-shooting victims, pushing expanded background checks for gun purchases, lashing out at political nemeses, and making fun of Fox host Shepard Smith, President Trump took time out of his busy Friday to highlight yet another personal grievance: an upcoming “Racist” movie from “Liberal Hollywood,” the satirical point of which the president couldn’t understand or seemingly didn’t care to grasp.

“Hollywood, I don't call them the elites,” Trump complained to reporters at the White House on Friday. “I think the elites are people they go after in many cases, but Hollywood is really terrible. You're talking about racists? Hollywood is racist.”



Liberal Hollywood is Racist at the highest level, and with great Anger and Hate! They like to call themselves “Elite,” but they are not Elite. In fact, it is often the people that they so strongly oppose that are actually the Elite. The movie coming out is made in order....

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 9, 2019




He added, “What they’re doing with the kind of movies they're putting out, it's actually very dangerous for our country. What Hollywood is doing is a tremendous disservice to our country.”
I have been pretty unrelenting in my criticism of todayś society, and it´s major contribution to the violence we see today.

Here is a prime example.

In September a new movie, called THE HUNT will be released.

The premise is simple. Rich progressives legally hunt and murder Conservatives and Trump supporters.

From the clips I have seen, it is raw with violence.

It is supposedly a satire, and perhaps most viewers will understand that. However, I have no doubt that it will embolden some lefty ANTIFA types to more violence.

Violence and threats of violence have become part of the hardcore lefts playbook.

If you are a politician and disagree with them, you are fair game to harassment, or worse. Ask Steve Scalise.

I have not heard one prominent democrat criticize ANTIFA for their beating of a Conservative reporter in Portland. Portland, being a left wing city, allows ANTIFA to run wild. The police watched as a mob beat and seriously injured this man, and no arrests have ever been made.

The hunt is the ultimate lefty dream, as our society becomes more debased. I think we are about circling the drain now, how long before we go down ?
 

sooda

Veteran Member
Won't be as good as God Bless America (that movie is hilarious, and "movie victims" include Westborro Baptist Church and raging Tea Parties picking on the elderly and disabled).

The Hunt movie, trailer, in theaters 9/27/19
https://www.wildaboutmovies.com/2019_movies/the-hunt-2019
The Hunt. In the shadow of a dark internet conspiracy theory, a group of globalist elites gathers for the very first time at a remote Manor House to hunt humans for sport. But the elites’ master plan is about to be derailed because one of the hunted, Crystal (Betty …
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
The Hunt movie, trailer, in theaters 9/27/19
https://www.wildaboutmovies.com/2019_movies/the-hunt-2019
The Hunt. In the shadow of a dark internet conspiracy theory, a group of globalist elites gathers for the very first time at a remote Manor House to hunt humans for sport. But the elites’ master plan is about to be derailed because one of the hunted, Crystal (Betty …
IMO, it seems like a cheap spoof of the Most Dangerous Game. Really, other than names and different characters with different motives, is there really any significant difference?
 

sooda

Veteran Member
IMO, it seems like a cheap spoof of the Most Dangerous Game. Really, other than names and different characters with different motives, is there really any significant difference?

Maybe not.. The talent in the Hunt is expensive.

There's another movie coming out that real racist.. SCRAGLAND.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
I have been pretty unrelenting in my criticism of todayś society, and it´s major contribution to the violence we see today.

Here is a prime example.

In September a new movie, called THE HUNT will be released.

The premise is simple. Rich progressives legally hunt and murder Conservatives and Trump supporters.

From the clips I have seen, it is raw with violence.

It is supposedly a satire, and perhaps most viewers will understand that. However, I have no doubt that it will embolden some lefty ANTIFA types to more violence.

Violence and threats of violence have become part of the hardcore lefts playbook.

If you are a politician and disagree with them, you are fair game to harassment, or worse. Ask Steve Scalise.

I have not heard one prominent democrat criticize ANTIFA for their beating of a Conservative reporter in Portland. Portland, being a left wing city, allows ANTIFA to run wild. The police watched as a mob beat and seriously injured this man, and no arrests have ever been made.

The hunt is the ultimate lefty dream, as our society becomes more debased. I think we are about circling the drain now, how long before we go down ?

Imagine that...... all the Democrats in the World, glued to that film. 'Orrible, them Democrats......

So were you. You watched it.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
There's another movie coming out that real racist.. SCRAGLAND.
Oh, those poor WASPies thinking they're going extinct and greatly endangered because they are being forced to acknowledge they share the world with those they've trampled on for centuries. (or at least that was my impression based on the little bit I was able to find).
 

sooda

Veteran Member
Oh, those poor WASPies thinking they're going extinct and greatly endangered because they are being forced to acknowledge they share the world with those they've trampled on for centuries. (or at least that was my impression based on the little bit I was able to find)

The Hunt (2019) - IMDb
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8244784
Directed by Craig Zobel. With Betty Gilpin, Emma Roberts, Hilary Swank, Ethan Suplee. Twelve strangers wake up in a clearing. They don't know where they are, or how they got there. They don't know they've been chosen - for a very specific purpose - The Hunt.
 
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