To what extent are Islamic terrorists inspired by Muhammad and the Quran?

[SA Huguenot]

Who the hell do you think you are? You have NO rights where I am concerned. I am a Christian but ignorance is NOT a requirement to be a Christian.

And I Gotcha!
A Muslim in disguise!
No Christian will ever speak this way when they are asked to
1. Tell me, do you agree that Muhammad was not a prophet of YHWH.
2. Do you worship Jesus as God?
3. Do you believe that Jesus was crucified, killed, and rose from the dead for your salvation?

How long did you pretend to be a Christian?
For over 10 years I visited Forums like these in South Africa, and I unmasked hundreds of Muslims such as you who either pretended to be Atheist or Christian.

I have the right to ask those 3 questions to anyone who I think are misusing the Spirit.
Look how easy it is for me to answer.
1.Muhammad is not a prophet of YHWH.
2.Jesus is God.
3. Yes Jesus died for my salvation.

Nothing will ever get a Christian upset to answer this!
Only the false spirit will hate those statements.

I call this the "Masked Muslim Check Mate"

 

[Audie]

There are several religions that actually walk the walk. They are not the ones you see too often on cable news.

Show me a christian who doesnt pick n choose

 

[SA Huguenot]

1 John 4:Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3 and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already. 4 Little children, you are from God and have overcome them, for he who is in you is greater than he who is in the world. 5 They are from the world; therefore they speak from the world, and the world listens to them. 6 We are from God. Whoever knows God listens to us; whoever is not from God does not listen to us. By this we know the Spirit of truth and the spirit of error.

Mene Mene Tekel Upharsin!

 

[sooda]

And I Gotcha!
A Muslim in disguise!
No Christian will ever speak this way when they are asked to
1. Tell me, do you agree that Muhammad was not a prophet of YHWH.
2. Do you worship Jesus as God?
3. Do you believe that Jesus was crucified, killed, and rose from the dead for your salvation?

How long did you pretend to be a Christian?
For over 10 years I visited Forums like these in South Africa, and I unmasked hundreds of Muslims such as you who either pretended to be Atheist or Christian.

I have the right to ask those 3 questions to anyone who I think are misusing the Spirit.
Look how easy it is for me to answer.
1.Muhammad is not a prophet of YHWH.
2.Jesus is God.
3. Yes Jesus died for my salvation.

Nothing will ever get a Christian upset to answer this!
Only the false spirit will hate those statements.

I call this the "Masked Muslim Check Mate"

"Gotcha"? Are you a little kid? You don't have to be ignorant to be a Christian.

Muhammed's first sermons were : "Save yourselves. I cannot save you. Return to the God of Abraham."

Did God send a messenger to the people of the Arabian peninsula? I have no clue and neither do you. Muslims have ALWAYS respected me and my faith … I repay them in kind.

 

[shmogie]

No

Go back and review the posts. Your mind is wandering.

You cited the OT, then talked about muslim self defense. No mind wandering, just responding to your post.

 

[SA Huguenot]

"Gotcha"? Are you a little kid? You don't have to be ignorant to be a Christian.

Muhammed's first sermons were : "Save yourselves. I cannot save you. Return to the God of Abraham."

Did God send a messenger to the people of the Arabian peninsula? I have no clue and neither do you. Muslims have ALWAYS respected me and my faith … I repay them in kind.

And here the Muslim dressed in a Christian cloak continues to glorify Muhammad!
Listen closely false spirit
Anwer me then only on one question!
1. Do you accept Jesus as God and your saviour who gave you salvation?

 

[Ellen Brown]

And here the Muslim dressed in a Christian cloak continues to glorify Muhammad!
Listen closely false spirit
Anwer me then only on one question!
1. Do you accept Jesus as God and your saviour who gave you salvation?

Jesus is not God.

 

[SA Huguenot]

Jesus is not God.

Well, At least you dont lie about your religion as Sooda did.
We all know you are not a Christian, and you never sold yourself as one.
I can never condemn you for being honest.
But that little Sooda was a smelling rat since the first time I received posts from him/her, and as you can see, Sooda got cought out for being a liar.
Cool Hu?

 

[sooda]

Well, At least you dont lie about your religion as Sooda did.
We all know you are not a Christian, and you never sold yourself as one.
I can never condemn you for being honest.
But that little Sooda was a smelling rat since the first time I received posts from him/her, and as you can see, Sooda got cought out for being a liar.
Cool Hu?

No one got caught for being a liar. I have told you more than once that I am an Episcopalian and a grandmother.

I understand why Muslims believe as they do since they reject blood sacrifice, original sin and scapegoats.

 

[icehorse]

They are good questions for Muslims. Most religious claims are difficult to convincingly verify and a degree of faith is required. Perhaps what can be verified to some extent is:
1/ The Quran was likely to be a record of the words Muhammad Himself spoke.
2/ Muhammad was the leader of a new religious community and like most religious leaders was revered by His followers. Muslims don’t revere Muhammad as God and Divinely perfect as Christians revere Christ.

I think your ideas are quite reasonable.

But to me what's critical is to understand what claims that Muslims will defend. If Muslims defend the perfection of their book and their prophet, then it seems that the answer to the OP is "yes, Islamic terrorists are substantially inspired by the book and the man".

 

[sooda]

I think your ideas are quite reasonable.

But to me what's critical is to understand what claims that Muslims will defend. If Muslims defend the perfection of their book and their prophet, then it seems that the answer to the OP is "yes, Islamic terrorists are substantially inspired by the book and the man".

Islamic terrorists justify their violent tactics through the interpretation of Quran and Hadith according to their own goals and intentions..

Sayyid Qutb | Counter Extremism Project
Terrorists and Extremists Database (TED) | Counter Extremism Projectsayyid-qutb
Sayyid Qutb was an Egyptian author and the lead theologian of the Muslim Brotherhood. His extremist theories have helped inform the tenets of an ideological movement often referred to by analysts as Qutbism. Born in Asyut Governorate, Egypt, in 1906, Qutb was executed by hanging in 1966.

Hassan al-Banna | Counter Extremism Project
Terrorists and Extremists Database (TED) | Counter Extremism Projecthassan-al-banna
Hassan al-Banna (1906-1949) was an Egyptian schoolteacher, an Islamic theologian, and the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood. He was a contemporary of Islamist ideologues Sayyid Qutb and Abul Ala Maududi , whose theories have helped form the violent Islamist ideology known as Qutbism .

 

[sooda]

Correction -
The Quran was revealed during war time and Muhammad was told when to take up arms by Allah. And Allah being all knowing did not just happen to make those revelations and then later realize like you that it seems somehow inconvenient with all the terrorists now.

I thought they decamped for Ethiopia.

 

[icehorse]

Islamic terrorists justify their violent tactics through the interpretation of Quran and Hadith according to their own goals and intentions..

The problem is that these books make it so darned easy to support violent tactics.

 

[sooda]

The problem is that these books make it so darned easy to support violent tactics.

Like the Old Testament mandate to kill all the Canaanites down to the babies and the livestock.

I don't believe in THAT God.. I think those lies are about power and politics. For goodness sake.. the Judeans even hated the Israelis.

 

[icehorse]

Like the Old Testament mandate to kill all the Canaanites down to the babies and the livestock.

I don't believe in THAT God.. I think those lies are about power and politics. For goodness sake.. the Judeans even hated the Israelis.

My claim is ENTIRELY independent of what's in any other scripture.

If you want to start a parallel thread about the negative impact of other scripture - I'll join you there. If you want to start a parallel thread comparing the negative impact of various scripture(s?), I'll join you there.

But THIS thread is about Islamic scripture, so your response could be seen as an attempt to sidetrack the discussion.

 

[whirlingmerc]

Muhammad’s claim to be a prophet and bearer of a Revelation from God as Jesus and Moses were is an important question for us all. It’s certainly what’s believed by His Followers.

Can the Word of God whether it be the Bible or Quran be used by religious leaders to incite violence and hatred? Whether or not both or neither books are from God, historians tell us that book books have been used to inspire and encourage war.

I think what is emphasized about God will influence people various ways and to some extent will depend on the people

There is a large emphasis on looking out for the stranger, forgiving the sinner and loving your enemies in Christianity. Is it always listened to? maybe maybe not.

 

[oldbadger]

The healing power of precepts may help.

Also Wisdom over Justice and Justice vs. Skillfulness

They might.
But I have always found that those who criticise the ones who seek to empathise with criminals in order to reduce crime are a hindrance.

 

[sooda]

They might.
But I have always found that those who criticise the ones who seek to empathise with criminals in order to reduce crime are a hindrance.

Their worst enemy is other Muslims.

 

[whirlingmerc]

Like the Old Testament mandate to kill all the Canaanites down to the babies and the livestock.

I don't believe in THAT God.. I think those lies are about power and politics. For goodness sake.. the Judeans even hated the Israelis.

Like the Old Testament mandate to kill all the Canaanites down to the babies and the livestock.

I don't believe in THAT God.. I think those lies are about power and politics. For goodness sake.. the Judeans even hated the Israelis.

That would be similar to what Marcion ( disagreed by the church early and now) believed that the God of the Old Testament was violent and the new testament Jesus was nicer... but ... I would say both the judgement of God and love of God are seen more vividly in the New which is a continuation in a large sense of the Old

Battles in the New are spiritual not physical and chief among them are putting to death the sin in yourself. I do not see the church authorized to use 'the sword' in the new testament and that is in the hands of the state for purposes of upholding the civil laws and protecting the land with an army.

 

[sooda]

That would be similar to what Marcion believed that the God of the Old Testament was violent and the new testament Jesus was nicer... but ... I would say both the judgement of God and love of God are seen more vividly in the New which is a continuation in a large sense of the Old

Battles in the New are spiritual not physical and chief among them are putting to death the sin in yourself

I don't think it has much to do with "God" as it does the story tellers. Just FYI there were Nestorian Christians on the Arabian Peninsula before Islam. .. so that's not like the trinity .