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The RCC and paedophilia

JChnsc19

Member
I have just seen this BBC News report! Catholics should be questioning a church, which has permitted child sexual abuse by some of their priests to be covered up for so long.:mad:

A senior Roman Catholic Cardinal has said that files documenting child sexual abuse were destroyed, allowing offences to continue.

German Cardinal Reinhard Marx told a conference on paedophilia in the Church that procedures to prosecute offenders "were deliberately not complied with".

"The rights of victims were effectively trampled underfoot," he said.

The unprecedented four-day summit has brought together 190 bishops from across the world.

The Catholic Church has faced growing pressure amid long-running cases of sexual abuse of children and young men, with victims accusing it of failing to tackle the issue.
Wow what a shock :rolleyes: priests touching children & the church covers it up. It’s really a tragedy of immense proportions. they should all burn in the fake hell they believe in
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
No wide brush this very website alone I see it! I see in YouTube videos and in everyday activities of both Catholics and Christians.
Regarding sexual abuse, it's wrong to treat Catholics & the larger collection
of Christian churches as the same. Tis the Catholic Church which has the
particular structure & culture which systematically protected & enabled abusers.
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
Local Sunday newspaper says every diocese in Michiganistan
is being investiged for child sexual abuse going back to the 1950s.
More info....
Michigan Catholic Diocese publishes list of priests accused of sexual abuse
Each Catholic diocese in Michigan raided in abuse investigation – Catholic World Report

Wasn't it also Michigan where the police or law enforcement made it very public they wouldn't trust the Church to provide any information? Maybe that goes without saying.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Wasn't it also Michigan where the police or law enforcement made it very public they wouldn't trust the Church to provide any information? Maybe that goes without saying.
I don't know.
But yes, given Church history, I would't trust them any farther than I could throw them.
Church claims of cooperation aren't worth a bucket of warm spit.
They're lower than Satan's toe jam.

I'm done with the metaphors now.
And my apologies to Satan.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Here are some stats on this in terms of alleged molestations, and I'll start with the high point of these alleged molestations here in the States, which was:
1970-74 at 1367
1975-79 at 1343
1980-84 at 1002
1985-89 at 518
1990-94 at 217
1995-99 at 129
2000-04 at 80
2005-09 at 99
2010-14 at 101
2015-17 at 22

Now, these numbers are likely to be bumped up at least a bit as investigations continue, but please note the trend.
I'd be interested to know what your source was, but regardless...

We know that there are other factors at play:
- the longer the time period since the abuse, the more likely that the victim is to have come forward at some point.
- the Catholic Church tends to be more willing to admit that abuse has happened after the statute of limitations has passed.
- there's more awareness and vigilance for the issue in law enforcement.

Assuming that your number are accurate, for an apples-to-apples comparison, we'd have to ask how many of those 1,367 incidents in 1970-1974 were known in 1979 and compare that number to the 101 we know about so far from 2010-2014 (the last full 5-year period in your stats).

And even then, we'd still have to consider how much those changes in law enforcement have affected the stats. Only then would we be able to infer that the Catholic Church has cleaned up its act in a meaningful way.
 

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
I have no idea what this sentence means!



You see what? Maybe try proof reading once in a while.

Ok let me break it down for the simple folk. Considering subjects case in point Islam. You’ll have several so-called Christian posters (I don’t make the religious distinctions considering Catholics and Christians believe in the divinity of Jesus), make comments concerning Muslims. Many have made many rude comments here which presents itself as inhospitable to potential individuals who may want to be members here.

Then we shift to my thread concerning Satanists and one Catholic making the comment regarding the vengefulness of Satanism, another judgement. Then we come to YouTube where there are countless videos of Christians and Catholics so concerned about Islam, Arabs, and the myth of Islam taking over. None of which derives its truth from academia all inciting hateful rhetoric.

So my point in all that is Christians and Catholics so busy worrying about other faiths that don’t share their worldview it’s about time they worry about themselves. Catholics have spent so many centuries demonizing other religions it’s time for them to focus on themselves before they have the audacity to “save mankind” through its example or so called.

Now that I’ve wasted brain cells explaining this to you perhaps you’ll lay the pipe down and understand this detailed explanation
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
The meeting concluded. All talk and no action ... again. T'is sad.

Pope condemns clerical sexual abuse but offers no new solutions

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I wish I was a priest.
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
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I wish I was a priest.

Not sure why you say that, as there would be many reasons. I switched which gender I coached once, as I had suspicions about the other chap's (colleague) ability to coach young girls. The dad in me made me do it.

I believe you can do more from the inside than from the outside, but in some religious groups of a more extreme dogmatic nature, making waves for the better from the inside just gets you booted.
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
Ok let me break it down for the simple folk. Considering subjects case in point Islam. You’ll have several so-called Christian posters (I don’t make the religious distinctions considering Catholics and Christians believe in the divinity of Jesus), make comments concerning Muslims. Many have made many rude comments here which presents itself as inhospitable to potential individuals who may want to be members here.

Then we shift to my thread concerning Satanists and one Catholic making the comment regarding the vengefulness of Satanism, another judgement. Then we come to YouTube where there are countless videos of Christians and Catholics so concerned about Islam, Arabs, and the myth of Islam taking over. None of which derives its truth from academia all inciting hateful rhetoric.

So my point in all that is Christians and Catholics so busy worrying about other faiths that don’t share their worldview it’s about time they worry about themselves. Catholics have spent so many centuries demonizing other religions it’s time for them to focus on themselves before they have the audacity to “save mankind” through its example or so called.

Now that I’ve wasted brain cells explaining this to you perhaps you’ll lay the pipe down and understand this detailed explanation

Give me a break, Epic. You know as well ad I do that Atheists "wag their fingers" at the religious all the time. Satanists do it and Muslims too. Every cultural, political and religious group does it. It's human nature.

People do what people do. And you do it as well. :cool:
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
This would be an apt description, since the major blame
lies with management, not so much with the lay members.
To blame every Catholic strikes me as very wrong.
You're right, but their continued loyalty to their church even after everything does demonstrate how harmful and dangerous religious indoctrination can be.
 
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