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Appellate court rules, “In God we trust” is ok

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
The expression "in God we trust" is incompatible with a secular state.
I mean, in my country the word God cannot be present in any governmental building or in any juridic document


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Apparently we aren't a secular state :)
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Government is having trouble making up its mind about our official religion.
In Michiganistan, you'll find religious oaths in court....it's all about "God".
But if I put "In God We Trust" on my leases or over my office door, this
would be a violation of fair housing laws. (Religious affiliation is a
protected group.)
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Perhaps atheists should be exempted from registering for the draft, eh.
If it's the Christians' country, then these wars against godless commies
& Muslims are theirs & theirs alone.
It’s kind of a package deal. If you want the benefits of a society you also have to accept the price of being a member of that society.
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
If you were an Arab Christian, and you repeated what your English speaking brethren say when they say "God is great" you would. In fact, any Christian speaking of their God would say "Allah" if Arabic were their native tongue.
Nope. The takbir is a conjugate form and is specific to Islam. The takbir uses “Allahu” not “Allah”. A common misunderstanding.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
It’s kind of a package deal. If you want the benefits of a society you also have to accept the price of being a member of that society.
And that price should be paid by those of the official religion.
We heathens are just guests. We shouldn't have to pay the
mortgage or fight their wars.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
He used the lower case "g", which could refer to any god,
eg, Cthulhu, Zeus, Krom, FSM. But when capitalized, it
refers to the one Homer is whispering to....
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Hey... just the fact he used the word itself... what a miracle :D
 

Windwalker

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Nope. The takbir is a conjugate form and is specific to Islam. The takbir uses “Allahu” not “Allah”. A common misunderstanding.
Interesting. I always assumed it was a connective part of the word to the following word, such as you see in inshallah, or in Turkish when speaking of someone to connect the word to the person, such as "sen" is you, but "seni" connects what comes next to you, like "ben seni seviyorum", or "I love you". I don't know the construction of Arabic like that. It seems as if "Allah-u" connects Allah to the word "great" in the same way. Still, isn't Allah, just the Arabic word for God, regardless?
 

It Aint Necessarily So

Veteran Member
Premium Member
It’s kind of a package deal. If you want the benefits of a society you also have to accept the price of being a member of that society.

It's pretty easy to avoid most civic responsibilities such as jury duty, serving in the military, paying all your taxes, voting, and engaging in charitable work and community service. You have to want to do those things, and to want that, one needs to love ones country, meaning that at a minimum, one needs to feel included. The message that motto sends is very clear. Atheists are not included in the "We," who from the American atheists' perspective, are "They" as are we to them.
 
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Regiomontanus

Ματαιοδοξία ματαιοδοξιών! Όλα είναι ματαιοδοξία.
It's how I know that I am not included in America's vision of itself. I don't trust in any gods, so I must not be one of them. Patriotism to such an America makes no sense from that perspective.

Hello. I was fortunate to have, long ago, purged myself of patriotism and its toxic offspring nationalism.

Peace
 
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