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Appellate court rules, “In God we trust” is ok

Regiomontanus

Ματαιοδοξία ματαιοδοξιών! Όλα είναι ματαιοδοξία.
FTA: “A federal appeals court on Tuesday said printing "In God We Trust" on U.S. currency is constitutional, citing its longstanding use and saying it was not coercive.”

U.S. court rejects atheists' appeal over 'In God We Trust' on money


Hello. I understand why an atheist would object to it (I was one such 'offended' unbeliever for most of my life). But now now I think it is wrong for a different reason (though I am not losing any sleep over it):

Bible Gateway passage: Matthew 6:24 - New International Version

Peace
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
The expression "in God we trust" is incompatible with a secular state.
I mean, in my country the word God cannot be present in any governmental building or in any juridic document


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Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
The expression "in God we trust" is incompatible with a secular state.
I mean, in my country the word God cannot be present in any governmental building or in any juridic document


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In your opinion. Apparently the U.S. courts, including the Supreme Court have a different opinion.
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
The expression "in God we trust" is incompatible with a secular state.
I mean, in my country the word God cannot be present in any governmental building or in any juridic document


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When I was in elementary school, teacher led Christian prayer
& Bible stories were constitutional too. This was considered
"longstanding" & "not coercive" too. Things change.

I wonder how the SCOTUS would rule if in Dearborn Michiganistan,
they replaced "In God We Trust" with "Allahu Akbar". Would those
Christian & Jewish justices feel the same way?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I think forcing it off would be expensive. Be nice if they decided to start not printing it that way. As a non Christian theist I find it gives one god and group a vote of confidence others are not getting and with the US being secular it's sends the wrong message.
The court has another religious tradition....the "so help me God" part
of swearing to tell the truth. This too is "longstanding" & "not coercive".
The court allows an alternative secular oath affirming truthfulness.
But one must request it, thereby putting the judge on notice that one
is a heathen. (I've been there & done that.)
Tell me this never works against a defendant.

I hope we're not dinged for derailing this Trump thread.
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
When I was in elementary school, teacher led Christian prayer
& Bible stories were constitutional too. This was considered
"longstanding" & "not coercive" too. Things change.

I wonder how the SCOTUS would rule if in Dearborn Michiganistan,
they replaced "In God We Trust" with "Allahu Akbar". Would those
Christian & Jewish justices feel the same way?
Each case is different and judged on its own. However “In God we Trust” isn’t specific to any particular religion while “Allahu Akbar” is.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Each case is different and judged on its own. However “In God we Trust” isn’t specific to any particular religion while “Allahu Akbar” is.
Because "God" is a proper name, is there anyone who really thinks that
"God" refers to anything other than the Christian "God"? And this in a
country wherein the President is sworn in on a Bible.

One could argue that "Allah" is just the Arabic word for "God", the same
one from various editions of Abrahamic scripture. But then we'd discover
that such names really do matter to Christians & Jews on the court.
 
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