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Featured Appellate court rules, “In God we trust” is ok

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Shaul, Aug 29, 2018.

  1. Shaul

    Shaul Well-Known Member

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  2. Jayhawker Soule

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    And your view?
     
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    The irony of printing "In God We Trust" on money, will never cease to amuse me. :)
     
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  4. Shaul

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    I’ll take any unwanted currency off your hands. :p
     
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    Regiomontanus retired astronomer

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    Hello. I understand why an atheist would object to it (I was one such 'offended' unbeliever for most of my life). But now now I think it is wrong for a different reason (though I am not losing any sleep over it):

    Bible Gateway passage: Matthew 6:24 - New International Version

    Peace
     
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  6. Shaul

    Shaul Well-Known Member

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    The ruling didn’t change the status quo. Looks like judge Gruender is more likely to get the nod for a Supreme Court nomination.
     
  7. Jayhawker Soule

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    Do you support the ruling or not?
     
  8. Estro Felino

    Estro Felino Believer in free will
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    The expression "in God we trust" is incompatible with a secular state.
    I mean, in my country the word God cannot be present in any governmental building or in any juridic document


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  9. Shaul

    Shaul Well-Known Member

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    In your opinion. Apparently the U.S. courts, including the Supreme Court have a different opinion.
     
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    When I was in elementary school, teacher led Christian prayer
    & Bible stories were constitutional too. This was considered
    "longstanding" & "not coercive" too. Things change.

    I wonder how the SCOTUS would rule if in Dearborn Michiganistan,
    they replaced "In God We Trust" with "Allahu Akbar". Would those
    Christian & Jewish justices feel the same way?
     
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    Stanyon WWMRD?

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    We need some limited edition money printed that says "in Trump we trust" if for nothing else than to make a lot of people lose their minds, Heh heh heh...
     
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  12. Estro Felino

    Estro Felino Believer in free will
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    Are u advertising Ann Coulter's book? :D
     
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    Don't let your fellow Trump fans hear you say that.
     
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    I think forcing it off would be expensive. Be nice if they decided to start not printing it that way. As a non Christian theist I find it gives one god and group a vote of confidence others are not getting and with the US being secular it's sends the wrong message.
     
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  15. Father Heathen

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    Chintzy trash like that already exists, created to make a quick, easy buck off of yokels.

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    The court has another religious tradition....the "so help me God" part
    of swearing to tell the truth. This too is "longstanding" & "not coercive".
    The court allows an alternative secular oath affirming truthfulness.
    But one must request it, thereby putting the judge on notice that one
    is a heathen. (I've been there & done that.)
    Tell me this never works against a defendant.

    I hope we're not dinged for derailing this Trump thread.
     
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  17. Father Heathen

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    It's an embarrassing relic of McCarthyism: In God We Trust - Wikipedia
     
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  18. Shaul

    Shaul Well-Known Member

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    Each case is different and judged on its own. However “In God we Trust” isn’t specific to any particular religion while “Allahu Akbar” is.
     
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  19. Shaul

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    Meh, I’m of two minds about it.
     
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    Because "God" is a proper name, is there anyone who really thinks that
    "God" refers to anything other than the Christian "God"? And this in a
    country wherein the President is sworn in on a Bible.

    One could argue that "Allah" is just the Arabic word for "God", the same
    one from various editions of Abrahamic scripture. But then we'd discover
    that such names really do matter to Christians & Jews on the court.
     
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