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So do you feel committed relationships (between parents), generally aren’t necessary for helping children to grow up well-grounded, to be stable themselves, and to lead productive lives?We are turning into a more community/tribal race again, marriage won't be as 'necessary' and will be different
BTW, thanks for your reply.We are turning into a more community/tribal race again, marriage won't be as 'necessary' and will be different
Do you have any idea how promiscuous people have been throughout history?Since humans today seem inclined to lead promiscuous lives, is this evolution?
Don't be silly. It's directly linked with availability and quality of birth control, sexual healthcare and the lessening of ingrained, repressive social stigmas.Or is it directly linked to a growing disrespect for the Bible?
Because it's a highly effective way to socially pair off couples and, in many cases historically, subjugate women.And how and why did marriage ever get to be so popular worldwide to begin with?
See above.The practice of marriage is observed among many cultures, even those that never had the Bible's influence in their society.
Not inherently. Has been used as a bad thing in some cultures? Yes.And is marriage a bad thing?
What does evolution have to do with marriage?I mean, if humans are evolving without needing it; it apparently is the way modern culture is heading.
So do you feel committed relationships (between parents), generally aren’t necessary for helping children to grow up well-grounded, to be stable themselves, and to lead productive lives?
So do you feel committed relationships (between parents), generally aren’t necessary for helping children to grow up well-grounded, to be stable themselves, and to lead productive lives?
That could be, but is it good for the children born from such non-committal unions? Is it good for society in general?
These are the more-important issues, IMO.
What? Where did you get this idea from?Since humans today seem inclined to lead promiscuous lives, is this evolution?
What growing disrespect? I'd say more people are more aware of what the Bible is about, and in many cases people become disillusioned by its contents when actually read. But understanding something as a cultural artifact rather than a book of magic is not a sign of disrespect, but rather a sign of education.Or is it directly linked to a growing disrespect for the Bible?
You really think social customs are because of the Bible? It's actually the other way around. The Bible is because of cultural norms being mythologized as coming from God.And how and why did marriage ever get to be so popular worldwide to begin with? The practice of marriage is observed among many cultures, even those that never had the Bible's influence in their society.
Even if the institution of marriage is less popular, that doesn't mean people don't seek partners to spend their lives with. That is marriage, even if there is no piece of paper down at the courthouse that says it is. Think of it like the Wizard of OZ giving the Tin Man a big heart necklace, telling him he now has a heart. Obviously, he already had a heart and the token was only a symbol. Same thing with marriage. A true marriage doesn't have to have a piece of paper that says "You're Official!". The act of spending your life with the same person, is marriage.And is marriage a bad thing? I mean, if humans are evolving without needing it; it apparently is the way modern culture is heading.
Since humans today seem inclined to lead promiscuous lives, is this evolution? Or is it directly linked to a growing disrespect for the Bible? And how and why did marriage ever get to be so popular worldwide to begin with? The practice of marriage is observed among many cultures, even those that never had the Bible's influence in their society.
And is marriage a bad thing? I mean, if humans are evolving without needing it; it apparently is the way modern culture is heading.
People do 'need it' couples need the commitment and security for the oneness marriage brings.
Children flourish best in an atmosphere of stability and love and not guessing who the adults in their lives might be
Having 2 working parents is advantageous.But let's face it, modern marriage doesn't provide that. if both parents are at jobs and NOT taking care of the kids, that is no better than having only one adult. And there has *always* been the possibility that a child will be orphaned. Marriage does nothing to eliminate that possibility.
The fact of the matter is that the nuclear family consisting of only two married adults is a very recent phenomenon and is a product of the disruption of the extended family. Much more common historically is to have aunts, uncles, grandparents, cousins, etc ALL living either together or very close by. The child has not traditionally been raised by only two adults, but by many. The nuclear family was formed when the extended family structure was overthrown when people became more apt to move away from their home towns.
That depends on how it's set up. For example, my wife and I both worked through most of our years bringing up our kids, but we never used a baby-sitter or day care for that. However, I certainly do not blame parents who may have had to use either, such as with our oldest daughter whereas her children were taken care of by us even after they started school. Our oldest granddaughter, who's a sophomore at a local university, still comes over and stays with us one day each week because she's so relaxed here. Is that because we're boring? Hmmmmmm?But let's face it, modern marriage doesn't provide that. if both parents are at jobs and NOT taking care of the kids, that is no better than having only one adult.
The history of our species shows that a stable and supportive unit is what is important. Sometimes children were raised by the women of the family, sometimes the girls were raised by the women and the boys raised by the men, but often enough child rearing has been more of a communal effort.So do you feel committed relationships (between parents), generally aren’t necessary for helping children to grow up well-grounded, to be stable themselves, and to lead productive lives?
We were never promiscuous in the past it's totally modernSince humans today seem inclined to lead promiscuous lives, is this evolution? Or is it directly linked to a growing disrespect for the Bible? And how and why did marriage ever get to be so popular worldwide to begin with? The practice of marriage is observed among many cultures, even those that never had the Bible's influence in their society.
And is marriage a bad thing? I mean, if humans are evolving without needing it; it apparently is the way modern culture is heading.
2. Modern promiscuity is Christianity established fault 100% it decided that it was improper stoning women to death for being that. Why it's an appalling truth!!! If Mary had been stoned to death Theists would be thrilled then again no Christianity maybe they would just be depressed. And Christians wouldn't thane all this promiscuity to deal with. Then again they wouldn't exist as Christians!!!Since humans today seem inclined to lead promiscuous lives, is this evolution? Or is it directly linked to a growing disrespect for the Bible? And how and why did marriage ever get to be so popular worldwide to begin with? The practice of marriage is observed among many cultures, even those that never had the Bible's influence in their society.
And is marriage a bad thing? I mean, if humans are evolving without needing it; it apparently is the way modern culture is heading.
But let's face it, modern marriage doesn't provide that. if both parents are at jobs and NOT taking care of the kids, that is no better than having only one adult. And there has *always* been the possibility that a child will be orphaned. Marriage does nothing to eliminate that possibility.
The fact of the matter is that the nuclear family consisting of only two married adults is a very recent phenomenon and is a product of the disruption of the extended family. Much more common historically is to have aunts, uncles, grandparents, cousins, etc ALL living either together or very close by. The child has not traditionally been raised by only two adults, but by many. The nuclear family was formed when the extended family structure was overthrown when people became more apt to move away from their home towns.
As such, the nuclear family is a deterioration of the support structure that children have traditionally had.
I forget the culture, but basically marriage was very loosely defined and rather "open" by our standards, and all a man had to do was claim a child was his, even if it couldn't be established who the biological father is. But the children were still raised in a stable, supportive environment.But in the ideal, there is one-ness and promiscuity doesn't provide that type of 'knowing each other' and kids don't thrive as well in less secure environments. People also aren't economically prosperous in the long run, so hong onto those piggy banks they might break.
I forget the culture, but basically marriage was very loosely defined and rather "open" by our standards, and all a man had to do was claim a child was his, even if it couldn't be established who the biological father is. But the children were still raised in a stable, supportive environment.
Basically, to so many cultures--excluding those that revolve around the concept of a nuclear "family"--have had child-rearing practices where it didn't so heavily upon the parents, and the issue of the "primary caretaker(s)" not being present not so much of an issue because grandparents, aunts/uncles, cousins, other extended family and even the community helped to raise a child.
The "Nuclear Family" is about the least family-oriented family model our species has ever practiced. The obsession with monogamy is needless. Children need a stable and supportive environment first and foremost. Beyond that, we've done well under dozens, hundreds perhaps, of different models and concepts of family.