McBell
mantra-chanting henotheistic snake handler
May have?But what did you expereince , a form of godliness without expereincing the power and demonstration of God.
You may have only had a relgion of dogma ,doctrine and rules,but did you receive the Holy Spirit ,the power and demonstration of God's power that converts ,which again is the Holy Spirit
And why do you believe you can tell me what I did/did not experience?
This is a big part of your problem.
You cannot understand how anyone can disagree with your proposed 'truth' so therefore I could not have "properly" experienced it.
As I said, this is nothing more than you refusing to accept something you disagree with.
And here you created a nice strawman to attack.I'm sorry ,but I will mention to others it is the truth, but it is up to God to reveal it as the only truth to those who come to him in repentance and brokenness.
LOLPaul says that in Cor
1Cr 2:4 And my speech and my preaching [was] not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:
of course the book that is attempting to sell you a particular God is going to promote only that God.
So does arrogance, lies and false teaching.But human rationale,pride ,arroagnce and ego have always come between God and man and always will.
Especially when they come from those who are attempting to recruit for God.
LOLIt seems in my expereince talking with people on the street or hospitals ,that many tend to forsake their preconcieved notions and doubts when life has struck them or those close to them with tradgedy ,sickness,death etc.
this is actually a detriment to your position.
To bad you do not understand how or why.
Back to your strawman I see.If any so called Christians try to convert or convince you by mere logic that God is truth ,he is a fool, it is their responsibility to declare it as truth , and God's to reveal it as truth.
With you?Skeptics often make it seem like it's truth because we say it is .
At least with me, I just present it and if the person chooses to explore it and call on and receive Christ ,his Holy Spirit wil reveal the truth BY POWER AND DEMONSTRATION
Yet these words spilled from your mouth in post #43:
you can't rule it out unless you have entered into a Holy Ghost experience, you aren't even qualified to discuss it.
The thing about you is that you are mistakenly convinced your argument is an either/or when concerning your god.As in Jesus day ,so it is today, that many claims are made as to the reality of a God ,judgment day ,sin ,salvation etc ,people either accept it or reject it, what you do with the information and knowledge you receive everyday from all aspects of life,you will be responsible for,not the one who delivered it.
Again with the crap.That is because you don't assimilate the relationship to God that a born again Christian has with God ,compared to the religious people today and in Jesus' day who had merely an external pious form of Godliness through their self imposed practices and traditional practices,but never connected with God through his spirit
You make this assumption based upon your not being able to accept that there are in fact some people who do understand/know, yet disagree with it.
Until such time as you can get over this, you will forever be stuck in this rut and only successful when preaching to the choir.
Prove it.For that Jesus, exposed them and said ,depart from me, I never knew you.
Fact is, there is nothing about Jesus anywhere that does not use the Scriptures the Bible is based upon as it's source.
As I already stated:
of course the book that is attempting to sell you a particular God is going to promote only that God
But that is a topic for another thread.
To you perhaps.Religion is of more an association or union to a particular,tradition, denomination practice, ritual in hopes to gain God's acceptance and appraoval,than it is to a god.
But your redefining the word to fit your needs does nothing to help anyone other than those in your choir.
If you were to call a tail a leg, how many legs does a dog have?Christianity is based on a personal encounter with God through receiving what he has done for us ,(relationship)not what we can do to for him through religion.
But people in the secular community need to associate Christianity as being a relgion ,so that's what we have. But in reality we have a personal living relationship to God through Jesus. BIG DIFFERENCE!!
Four.
Calling a tail a leg does not make the tail a leg.
Same thing applies here.
Oh.Jesus was very expressive of that to the high ruling relgious leaders of his time,where he exposed them for being externally clean ,but dead inside,there was a difference and it's called relationship ,intimacy with God ,as hard as that may be to comprehend.
You still trying to convince us that your religion is not a religion?
STILL GOING.What I am saying is, there is relationship with God where God reaches down and intervenes with his poeple personally and there is what is widely known as relgion, that is, man trying earnestly to reach for God through self imposed practices ,rituals rules and man made ordinances.
Relationship goes above and beyond religion
I wonder who it is you are trying to convince.
Me or yourself?
LOLThe Holy Spirit of God reveals to born again Christians what is truth and what is false and that does not mean we throw it in people's faces , or expect you to believe it, it is a personal revelation.
another convenient out for you.
Yet here you are trying to shove your "personal revelation" ( seems to me the Bible has something to say about 'personal revelations') down everyone else's throat.
I am not wrong.Also whatever is contrary to sound doctrine, referring to scriptures.
But again I won't tell you your wrong ,that is up to you to discover.
But that is what we beleive ,not just intellectually ,but the Holy Spirit confirms it.
That is what you cannot accept.
That disagreement with you does not equate being wrong.
That disagreement with your deity does not equate being wrong.
This is YOUR hang up.
Not mine.
But you feel free to tell yourself whatever you must in order to get by.