would the world be a better place

[Enoch07]

Animals are animals , human beings are not animals in my view

It doesn't really matter. Animals evolve body parts into weapons. Humans evolved the mind into a weapon. That's the only difference really as far as this conversation is concerned.

 

[joe1776]

During Oklahoma deer season there are an average 60,000 dear killed.
No guns= no hunting.
No hunting= 600,000 deer population increase in 10 years.
Most wildlife populations (deer, racoon, coyote, feral hog, etc) would explode in numbers and the destruction of crops and property would greatly increase as well.
There would only be loss, no gain.

Bows and arrows kill deer. They kill people too but not nearly as effectively as guns and bombs.

Bows and arrows would take far more skill though. It'd be too much of a challenge for most hunters.

 

[Spirit of Light]

It doesn't really matter. Animals evolve body parts into weapons. Humans evolved the mind into a weapon. That's the only difference really as far as this conversation is concerned.

My mind is not a weapon actually my mind is without a lot of activity. and without hate toward others

 

[Enoch07]

My mind is not a weapon actually my mind is without a lot of activity.

I call (mod edit) bull****!

But hey, feel free to virtue signal all you please.

 

[Quagmire]

Getting rid of all weapons would just be treating a symptom, and it's one that would almost certainly reemerge immediately.

The very first things humanoids invented were tools/weapons (most are interchangeable).

• 3.3-2.6 million years ago (Ma): Stone tools – found in present-day Kenya, they are so old that only a pre-human species could have invented them.[2] The otherwise earliest known stone tools (Oldowan) were found in Ethiopia[3] developed perhaps by Australopithecus garhi or Homo habilis[4][5]

The problem, if you choose to see it as a problem (I like to believe the world is more or less the way it's supposed to be, violence and all) is the need for weapons, or the need for violence for that matter.

 

[Spirit of Light]

I call (mod edit) bull****!

But hey, feel free to virtue signal all you please.

I dont say i am any special, far from it, what my statement say is when one practice meditation for longer times the mind will be calmer and without lot of activity

 

[SalixIncendium]

Oh. Sort of like education?

No.

 

[SalixIncendium]

Animals are animals , human beings are not animals in my view

Wait. I thought in another thread that you were embracing science.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

I live a very calm and secluded lifestyle without fear of the weapons people do have, but in the same time see that weapon used by the wrong people cause suffering to people, with compassion in my heart i would like to see all weapons removed. But as one person i know i can not fix this problem alone

All i can do is spread the message that weapons in the wrong hands are very bad, and that we should not kill each others

I find it difficult to imagine a reasonable person rejecting your idea on the face of it. I want peace and a world where no man need fear another. In practical terms, though, I do not see us achieving that condition anytime soon. But I support your right to see things as you do and applaud you for living up to your values and trying to persuade others. I support you from a philosophical perspective even if I do not see a practical change given the conditions.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Wold the world become a better place if we destroyed all weapons?
Why do human beings want to use weapons?

I have no answer to your question. I know only that I have never owned a weapon, of any kind, nor ever wanted one.

 

[We Never Know]

Bows and arrows kill deer. They kill people too but not nearly as effectively as guns and bombs.

Bows and arrows would take far more skill though. It'd be too much of a challenge for most hunters.

I agree and with spears it would be even harder. Bows and arrows are weapons which was the point.

Wold the world become a better place if we destroyed all weapons?
Why do human beings want to use weapons?

 

[Spirit of Light]

Wait. I thought in another thread that you were embracing science.

Yes i do. But human beings are spiritual beings not animals

 

[SalixIncendium]

Yes i do. But human beings are spiritual beings not animals

Who told you that animals aren't spiritual?

The Catholic church once told me this (which is one of the key reasons I'm no longer Catholic), but in my experiences with animals, I must disagree completely with both of you.

 

[We Never Know]

personally i would be fine by living only of plants. berries and other vegtarian way of living,
I know not everyone can do that an i know some hunting will always be there, the killing i want an end to is human killing human

As the population of (deer for example) sky rocketed upward, they would eat most of your plants, berries and other vegetation.

 

[We Never Know]

Animals are animals , human beings are not animals in my view

Humans are apes, we are animals.

 

[Quagmire]

As the population of (deer for example) sky rocketed upward, they would eat most of your plants, berries and other vegetation.

Yeah, what a lot of people don't get, or choose to ignore, is that in just about any imaginable scenario a world without violence would be significantly harsher and uglier than the one we have now.

If we have to choose between The Four Horsemen, and nature suggests that we do, I'd take War over Famine and Pestilence any day.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

Who told you that animals aren't spiritual?

The Catholic church once told me this (which is one of the key reasons I'm no longer Catholic), but in my experiences with animals, I must disagree completely with both of you.

From my understanding it starts with the Vegatable Spirit and then the Animal Spirit then the Human Spirit, (plus 2 levels above human). We share what is below in each level and as to what is above, its highest attainment is to sacrifice itself to it to be part of it.

Example - Plants feed animal and man and give medicinal qualities, when used correctly. That is the highest bounty of the vegatable kingdom, that is, existing to give love and beauty to animal and man.

Regards Tony

 

[MonkeyFire]

Wold the world become a better place if we destroyed all weapons?
Why do human beings want to use weapons?

And your left with destruction, a giant weapon. When you have equanimity all along. You don't kill it, it just kinda dies.

 

[David1967]

During Oklahoma deer season there are an average 60,000 dear killed.
No guns= no hunting.
No hunting= 600,000 deer population increase in 10 years.
Most wildlife populations (deer, racoon, coyote, feral hog, etc) would explode in numbers and the destruction of crops and property would greatly increase as well.
There would only be loss, no gain.

I live in Oklahoma and the deer population is huge despite hunting. Lots of vehicle accidents involving deer, even in town.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

If i understand ou correct, weapon has been a reason we are who we are today? does weapon help develop spitituality?

Weapons such as knives are very frequently used in religious rituals.