Sorry, you seemed to be basing it on the OT and individuals. My apologies for misunderstanding
Done be sorry, its not bear. I used the OT as an example.
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Sorry, you seemed to be basing it on the OT and individuals. My apologies for misunderstanding
Yes, I am horrified by certain laws, past and present, even in the USA.In some South American countries violence against women is OK, especially if machismo is involved ..... that is horrifying to me and that fact that it is legal there does not make it any less horrifying to me.
So laws against violence and theft are similar to traffic laws; they concern public safety and well-being.
And I guess in a way this is my point. We can agree on issues of public safety and well-being. In reading about moral philosophy, this topic is usually considered part of moral philosophy.
Exactly.And depending on how we define murder, murder isn't murder at all anymore.
I want to agree but have questions.
What is the source of these? What specifically are they? Can it be proven they are objectively universal?
42Principles of Maat - Osiris judgement, basically point to respecting other human beings, 10 Commandments based on those Principles, to teach respect of each other, value life.Interesting and useful list.
I can agree with most except those about Gods; can't steal from someone who doesn't exist. What is the source of this list?
Assuming that we agree that morality is a thing and we agree that morality is about doing "the right thing", I think we can also agree that "the right thing" must be the same at different locations or different times as long as no defining characteristic of the situation changes.Please share your proof.
Opinions on the question of whether abortion is moral or not are objective. One side on the issue is right and the other is wrong. The question isn't subjective like the opinions on art, music or beauty.What is the objective moral value regarding abortion...
You'd use your conscience (moral intuition) to judge.If there were, what device would I use to discover it? A telescope? A Geiger counter?
Treating a person (or situation) equally in different instances given that the defining characteristics of the environment are the same.What definition do you have in mind for the word "equality"?
Some seem to think there is no such thing as objective morality because no one can agree.
The law, and morality, are not the same. The law is a consensus agreement regarding a Constitutional extension of the rights of the citizenry.I say that there is no such thing as objective morality. We each choose our moral code, making every set of morals held by any moral agent subjective, even if we all happen to agree. The moral values do not have objective existence the way that the sun does. They're not out there in space to be observed or discovered. We must look within to decide what feels right and wrong to us.
What is the objective moral value regarding abortion, same-sex marriage, or assisted suicide? There is none. If there were, what device would I use to discover it? A telescope? A Geiger counter?
Some seem to think there is no such thing as objective morality because no one can agree. Does this mean laws are immoral and that we should not have laws? (since they are arbitrary and promote the moral views of some but not others).
But can we agree on enough? Things such as: murder, stealing, rape, racism, phobias against various groups of people. Is there really any controversy about these?
Really? Post the verses.Example, the OT condones just about everything on that list you provided. Does that make them moral? Certainly there are people who consider the genocide, murder, rape, theft, slavery (including sex slavery) to be right because the bible says so.
Very often, yes, they can, they do know, but their problems lie with other issues such a disconnect with empathy and hyper promotion of the self. When it comes to their victims and victim's families, they don't feel any remorse, regret, or guilt. And it's not unusual for them to realize there is something wrong with them because of that.A good point. But I wonder whether narcissists or psychopaths or sociopaths have this capacity to distinguish between right and wrong?
Really? Post the verses.
I can show you where they’re condemned. Surely you’ve heard of the Ten Commandments, included in the much-larger Mosaic Law?
Or perhaps you can’t fathom why God would perform and allow some of those actions, but deny humans the ability to randomly do so?
Any ideas?
If you don't know the Bible well enough to know this I don't care enough to explain it to you.Really? Post the verses.
I appreciate the Scriptures...Genesis 7:11-24
Deuteronomy 20:13-14
Exodus 21:20-21
To cite just a few.
Of course you can excuse them 'coz god done so it just gotta be good. Me, i have a different, more humane moral compass.