Rational Agnostic
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Absolutely. Also, I would argue that the flaw is much closer to universal than many are making it out to be.
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Why I Despise Religion
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Absolutely. Also, I would argue that the flaw is much closer to universal than many are making it out to be.
On that we disagree. I see it as quite localized, if terribly overgrown.
Rational Agnostic
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So does contemplation of the wonders of the universe, and the beauty of nature; at least in my opinion.
All living things have a soul, not just humans. Humans have evolved the more complex individualized souls. Animals generally have group souls with others in their group.
Rational Agnostic
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How do you know this?
That too.
Right, but to simply say all religious groups express and support this is inaccurate and lazy. (Not saying you made this argument, but speaking generally.)
From my study of paranormal phenomena and the teachings of many masters/seers that I have come to believe perceive things beyond the mundane.
But the specifics regarding these beliefs, how they are obtained and how believers in these religions varies greatly not only from religion to religion, but also within sects of those religions.
My conflict with religion no matter the result, good or bad, is that its fundamental processes are flawed. One can sum up religion on heresay, speculation and faith.
The first two builds beliefs that are not proven. The last is a reinforcement of the first two to continue the belief. Then religion spits in the face of actual evidence in some cases like creationism or sexual activity/orientation being dangerous. Its biggest flaw is an authority to all mighty being(s) that no one can prove exists.
We say religion is right for taking care of the poor or helping one another. We then tell religion its wrong to hate based on other religions or sexual orientation. However, it all came from the same processes which is the interpretation of books based on heresay and speculation.
Religion is the most mainstream process that has gotten so much wrong and yet continues to get a pass do more things wrong.
Also, a secondary point is that just because something feels good doesn't necessarily make it good.
Not all Hindu or Buddhists believe in an afterlife.
Do you believe that all religions are this way?
Good point. It would be nice to graduate to something better after this life, but if we cease to exist then there is nothing left of us to contemplate how bad it is to not exist.
Bingo! So where do people from your planet go after death?
If they are bad, they go to Earth. If they are good, they still go to Earth. My planet is not exactly what you call "fair".
Yes I do.
If the religion is based on a god or gods, then its required to prove these gods exist. Every moral and ethics are based on these all mighty beings.
Sorry. I can find "comfort" in many things that could also be destructive to my family and others.
There has to be other rules around this need of comfort to make it morally good.
if 'non-existence' is even bad to begin with.Good point. It would be nice to graduate to something better after this life, but if we cease to exist then there is nothing left of us to contemplate how bad it is to not exist.
Well, then this discussion is over. Feel free to join the chorus of oversimplification if you'd like. But I will not be joining you.
This sounds like proselytizing.
I fail to see what's wrong with believing in an afterlife. I take comfort in my belief that I'll be reunited with my loved ones. It's simply my view that this life is not enough. I also believe that non-human animals have immortal souls (and plants and other creatures) and that we're not "special" in that regard. Oh, and "more evolved" isn't the case. That's not how evolution works.
I fail to see what's wrong with believing in an afterlife. I take comfort in my belief that I'll be reunited with my loved ones. It's simply my view that this life is not enough. I also believe that non-human animals have immortal souls (and plants and other creatures) and that we're not "special" in that regard. Oh, and "more evolved" isn't the case. That's not how evolution works.