Jesus explicitly states that he has no powers of his own , only those that God allows to him ─@blü 2
Many biblical passages prove that Jesus is God.
Many passages in the Bible prove that the Holy Spirit is a person.
- Jesus is omnipotent (Revelation 1: 8) (Matthew 28:18)
- Jesus is called God (John 20:28-29) (Romans 9:5) (1 John 5:20)(Hebrews 1:8)(Isaiah 9:6)
- Jesus is the image of the invisible God (Colossians 1:15)
- God became flesh (human) and Jesus is this flesh (John 1: 1 + 14) (1 Timothy 3:16)
- Jesus is worshiped (Acts 7:59-60)
- Jesus accepts prayers (John 14:13-14)
- Jesus and the father are one (John 10:30)
- God is the only Redeemer (Isaiah 43:11) = Jesus is the Redeemer (Luke 2:11)
- God will judge the world (Psalm 98: 9) = Jesus is the judge (Matthew 25:31-46)
- God is the rock (1 Samuel 2:2) = Jesus is the rock (1 Corinthians 10:4)
- God is the Lord of Lords (Deuteronomy 10:17) = Jesus is the Lord of Lords (Revelation 19:16)
- God is the first and the last (Isaiah 44: 6) = Jesus is the first and the last (Revelation 1:17)
- Jesus forgives sins (Mark 2:5)
- Jesus demands that one should honor him as one does the father honor (John 5:23)
- Jesus is the Creator (Romans 11:36) (Col. 1: 16-17)
- Who has seen Jesus, has seen God (John 14:9)
- Whoever believes in Jesus believes in God (John 12:44)
The Bible shows in many places that the Holy Spirit is acting, and that can only be said by one person.
The Holy Spirit ...
• teaches the disciples (Luke 12:12, John 14:26, 1 Cor 2:13)
• recalls the words of the Lord (John 14:26)
• bears witness to God (John 15:26)
• convict the world of sin, justice and judgment (Jn. 16:8-11)
• leads believers into the whole truth (Jn 16:13)
• announce the coming to the disciples (Jn 16:13)
• talks about the things of the Al (Jn 16:13)
• glorify Jesus (Jn 16:14).
• speaks to believers (Acts 8:29; 10,19; 11,12; 13,2; 20,23; 21,11; 28,25)
• encourages saints (Acts 9:31)
• prevents disciples from doing anything (Acts 16.6)
• forbids disciples to do anything (Acts 16: 7)
• leads the sons(Romans 8:14, Gal 5:18)
• affirm with our spirit that we are children of God (Ro 8:16)
• helps believers in their weakness (Romans 8:26)
• uses God for believers according to (Romans 8:27)
• explore the depths of God (1 Cor 2:10)
• distributes gifts according to His will (1 Cor 12:11)
• writes on flesh-tablets of the heart (2 Cor 3: 3)
• foretells the future (1 Tim 4: 1)
• witnesses the forgiveness of sins to Christians (Heb. 10:15)
• resting on self-proclaiming Christians (1 Pet 4:14)
• speaks to meetings (Off 2,7.11.17.29; 3,6,13,22)
• explains the words of God (Rev 14,13)
• call to Jesus(Rev 22,17)
The Scriptures not only show that the Spirit of God is acting, but are also presented as someone with whom something happens.
The Holy Spirit can ...
• to be blasphemed (Mark 3:29, 30)
• be lied to (Acts 5: 3)
• be tried, that is, put to the test (Acts 5: 9)
• to be fought (Acts 7:51)
• be saddened (Eph 4,30)
• reviled (Heb 10:29)
Many passages in the Bible prove that the Holy Spirit is also God.
Many of the quoted scriptures already make it clear that the mind is not just a person but also God. But because this point is so important, I would like to shed some light on it.
First of all, the Spirit is explicitly called the Spirit of God in Holy Scripture (Gen. 1: 2, Mt 3:16).
Acts 5: 3-4 (emphasis added) is very clear: "And Peter said, Ananias, why did Satan fill your heart, that you lied to the Holy Spirit and took away the proceeds of the field? ... You have not lied to humans, but to God. "
more:
• omnipresent (Ps 139,7)
• omniscient (Isa 40,13, 1 Cor 2:11)
• Almighty (Job 26:13)
• sovereign (Jn 3: 8, 1 Cor 12: 4-11)
• eternal (Heb 9.14)
John 5:19 “the Son can do nothing of his own accord, but only what he sees the Father doing”
John 5:30 “I can do nothing on my own authority; [...] I seek not my own will but the will of him who sent me.”
John 6:38 “For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will, but the will of him who sent me”
John 8:42 “I proceeded and came forth from God; I came not of my own accord, but he sent me.”
John 14:10 “The words that I say to you I do not speak on my own authority; but the Father who dwells in me does his works.”
John 5:30 “I can do nothing on my own authority; [...] I seek not my own will but the will of him who sent me.”
John 6:38 “For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will, but the will of him who sent me”
John 8:42 “I proceeded and came forth from God; I came not of my own accord, but he sent me.”
John 14:10 “The words that I say to you I do not speak on my own authority; but the Father who dwells in me does his works.”
It follows that even if your list were to make well-based claims, which in my view it doesn't, all of Jesus' qualities would be explicable as powers which God has given his envoy Jesus.
So tell me why ─As I said, you pick out biblical passages without considering the whole context, and that's wrong. Anyone can take a passage out of the Bible and interpret anything they want into it.
John 17:3 “And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.”
John 20:17 “I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.”
John 20:17 “I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.”
don't mean that Jesus acknowledges the Father as the only true god, and as the God that Jesus himself worships.
If Jesus means what he says then the Trinity notion is untenable. So don't invoke the doctrine in your explanation.
So you don't know when the Trinity doctrine was invented? You don't know that it didn't exist before the 4th century? Then go and check it out ─ don't take my word for it, satisfy yourself that this statement is correct. (And remember, we're talking about the doctrine, not earlier ideas associating God, Jesus and the Ghost in various ways ─ they were rejected by the church.)You ask me to prove. I can't give you any proof except the Bible. The Bible is my only proof.
What, with Jesus NEVER ONCE SAYING, I AM GOD! ? With Jesus saying the Father is THE ONLY TRUE GOD? And the God Jesus worships? And the only source of Jesus' power, in heaven and on earth? Why on earth would anyone think this meant that Jesus was anything but God's envoy? Why on earth would anyone think the Ghost was 100% of God?Whoever looks at the Bible in its entire context will also realize that the Trinity is true.
As I said to you before, Jesus is mentioned nowhere in the Tanakh. Not anywhere. Not even once. I already demonstrated to you that the purported readings of Isaiah are in fact hopelessly inadequate misreadings, perversion of the text. A passage about King Ahaz and his troubles with the kings to his north is NOT a foretelling of Jesus. Nor is the concept of the Trinity doctrine found anywhere in the bible, no mention of it in the Tanakh, no mention of it in the NT. And incidentally, the Tanakh's ruach, the breath / spirit of Yahweh, is a manifestation of Yahweh himself, not of any distinct divine person.Read the old testament and the new one.
All that is dealt with by my first point above ─ Jesus himself says all his qualities are allowed to him by God, whose envoy he is. (I also dealt with them, or anyway sufficient of them, back in my first reply to you.)You will find, for example, parallel places. God calls himself the only Savior (Isaiah 43:11) in the Old Testament, In the New Testament we find out that Jesus is the Redeemer (Luke 2:11).
As I said, if Jesus was God then letting people know who he really was would be the single most important message he could possibly have delivered. And his failure to say he was God would mean his career was based on a big lie, was one long tale of deceit.
Is that really what you're arguing for?
(I iterate that you can believe what you like. My argument is confined to the fact that the bible not only does not support what you say but contradicts it.)