By the time of Mt 25:31, Paul and his listeners are already dead, as may be you, whether as a member of the nations/Gentiles, who are judged (Joel 3:2-8), as in during the "day of the LORD" (Joel 2:31-32), where the nations who maligned Israel, will be sold into slavery (Joel 3:8), and then the "righteous will shine" (Mt 13:43 & Joel 3:18), after "those who commit lawlessness" are thrown into the "furnace of fire" (Great Tribulation of the day of the LORD), whereas again, those who tormented Jacob/Israel, where Israel was "scattered", such as Germany, Iraq, Assyria, and Russia, will be "destroyed" (Jeremiah 30:10-11). Jeremiah 31:31-34 is with regards to the house of Judah (Jews), and the house of Israel (Ephraim), of which the nations/Gentiles, are not included in those divisions. That happens after Israel (Judah and Ephraim) are gathered from the nations and reunited on the land given to Jacob/Israel, at which time they will be given a new heart and spirit and keep the LORD's statutes (Ezekiel 36 & 37) for ever more under a covenant of peace. The only ones being risen from the dead on the eve of the millennium are the righteous (Rev 20:4), and those who had been beheaded, and without the mark of the beast, which would exclude "Christians" in general. Your faith appears to be based on wishful thinking, along with the tare seed of the "enemy" (false prophet Paul) (Mt 13:24-25). As for Rev 21:4-5, that would be with respect to those within the gates (Rev 22:14-15) and would exclude those who love lies and lying, who are kept outside the gates. Apparently, those who love the darkness, will be kept in the darkness, for inside the gate, there will be no need for the sun (Rev 21:23). Outside the gate, there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth (Mt 13:41-42) for those who "commit lawlessness".
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Who Or What Is Israel?
- Thread starter Elihoenai
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That was also true of the corrupted religious leaders teaching their traditions, their man-made customs to the flock of God - Matthew 15:9; Mark 7:7
So, many 'churches' teach their point of view over Scripture, but teach it as being Scripture.
Even during the world wars false clergy used the pulpit as a recruiting station so that parents would sacrifice their sons on the Altar of War as if that was the same as the Altar of God which it is Not.
So, to me just because it is ' common ' does Not mean that it is in harmony with the teachings of Christ.
I don't know. When the false prophet Paul got into trouble, he called on his Lord, Augustus Caesar, to get him out of Jerusalem. As for the "wide path" versus the "narrow path", Mt 7:12 is with respect to Mt 7:13-15, whereas the wolves in sheep's clothing, who lead the sheep to "destruction" are the "false prophets". As for Yeshua, he said to give to Caesar what is Caesars, which seems a political statement in favor of Caesar. As for "Atheists", I don't know anyone who hates them. They generally just ignore them unless they spout off incongruities over and over and have to be shown the "wide path" of their ways, which leads to "destruction" (Mt 7:12). It is their choice to follow whatever path they want, even though it might cause the sky to fall, with innocents being injured in the process.
In USA, we rank about as low as Muslims,
even lower...the lowest of all by white
evangelicals.
Religious Groups' Ratings of Each Other
www.pewresearch.org
We're more likely to teach science.
Leading scientists still reject God - Nature
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
I think atheists are doing much better. According to Pew Research "Roughly equal shares rate atheists coldly (28%) as rate them warmly (30%)." IOW atheists have reached the state of being seen more or less neutral.In USA, we rank about as low as Muslims,
even lower...the lowest of all by white
evangelicals.
Religious Groups' Ratings of Each Other
We're more likely to teach science.
Leading scientists still reject God - Nature
www.nature.com
Elihoenai
Well-Known Member
Genesis 1:29
29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
I see your position on Celibacy. Originally Elohim/God gave a Vegan diet. I'm returning to the Origins.
Matthew 3:14
14 But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me?
Are you saying that Christians no longer have to do John the Baptist Water Baptism? A thing to consider is that you could be misunderstanding the relationship between Yeshua/Jesus and John.
Clarification on the meaning of Recreational Sex and Drug Taking:
Recreational Sex: Sex Without the Intention the Procreate. For example, the Woman taking the Pill or the Man wearing a Condom.
Drug Taking: Pharmaceutical Drugs or Recreational Drugs.
Almost every adult person on the planet is having Recreational Sex and Taking Drugs.
Drug
"...The most widely used drugs in the world include caffeine, nicotine and alcohol,[9] which are also considered recreational drugs, since they are used for pleasure rather than medicinal purposes...."
Drug - Wikipedia
Romans 7:14
14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
Yes, it Sounds like I'm creating a new Religion when actually this is the Original Christianity that Yeshua/Jesus taught that the Roman Catholic Church Destroyed.
Yes, I'm at Works stage of the Spiritual Journey observing the Law of Moses having Not attained Grace yet.
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Elihoenai
Well-Known Member
Is the Water of the Mikveh normal water or do you put substances in the Water?
Genesis 22:10
10 And Abraham stretched forth his hand, and took the knife to slay his son.
True Religion is Ultra Extremism in Total Devotion/Commitment to Elohim/God. Father Abraham taught this in his Willingness to Slay his own son For Elohim/God.
Acts 4:27
27 For of a truth against thy holy child Jesus, whom thou hast anointed, both Herod, and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles, and the people of Israel, were gathered together,
Christian Gnostics think those claiming to be Fleshly Jews are Imposters working with the Roman Catholic Church to Destroy Yeshua/Jesus. It's the Ancient Alliance between Rome and Herod (Roman Jews) that's been ongoing for thousands of years. It could be that you are knowingly working with this Alliance or doing it Ignorantly.
Christian Gnosticism is not Monolithic. I'm the first of this new branch of Christian Gnostics in this Era. It's actually not new, as this is actually the Ancient Original teaching of Yeshua/Jesus.
In Christian Gnosticism Gentiles Become Israel through observing the Law of Moses.
You are welcome.Thank you for all your answers. This has been interesting.
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IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
It's just normal water, but it has to come from a flowing source like a spring or stream or rain water. As for added substances, while it is unlawful to add anything that changes the clearness or color of the water, it is permissible to add things like clear chlorine in order to keep bacteria from forming.
No offense but that's just outrageously funny. Catholics tried to kill us for 2000 years.
Yes, it was pretty obvious that this is pretty specifically your thing, not Christian Gnosticism. You are essentially creating your own new special religion. Yes, your new religion is inspired in many ways by Gnosticism, but you definitely have additional beliefs that don't line up with Christian Gnosticism. Your religion seems to be a syncretistic combination of Christian Gnosticism and Hebrew Roots.
No, in YOUR religion that is believed. It is not a belief held by Christian Gnosticism.
Nor is it true. But I'm sure I will not be able to convince you. In my experience, imposters to being Jews have a deep jealousy of Jews, and cannot accept the fact that 1.they are not Jews and 2. that being Gentile is no shame. Righteous Gentiles have a share in the world to come, same as Jews. There is nothing second class about being a Gentile. You really are fine.
Yes. Of course that was before the land was cursed and before the mist was lifted.
The land is still cursed and the watering mist is still gone so...
Gen 9: 3 Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you; and as I gave you the green vegetables and plants, I give you everything.
When God speaks, opinions cease
The Baptism of John was to prepare the way for Jesus and he was speaking to the Jews. Now that Jesus has finished the work, we baptize into the baptism of Jesus.
Acts 8:16 For He had not yet fallen upon any of them, but they had only been baptized into the name of the Lord Jesus.
Cornelius in Acts 10 was not baptized in the baptism of John.
Can you give me a scripture please?
Can you give me a scripture please?Drug
"...The most widely used drugs in the world include caffeine, nicotine and alcohol,[9] which are also considered recreational drugs, since they are used for pleasure rather than medicinal purposes...."
Drug - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Still sounds like the doctrine of devils:
4 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
Well, apparently the followers of the "message" (Paul's false gospel of grace) of the "enemy"/"devil" (Mt 13), which was planted next to the "good" "message", of the "son of man", apparently don't need the baptism of the spirit, of water, or of fire. (Mt 3), nor provide good fruit, and apparently, they don't need to fear the coming wrath/anger/fire of God (Mt 3 & Rev 14:10). Well, good luck with that. And what would be the "name of the Lord Jesus"?
I don't think of atheists being hated or being ranked.
Since 'Earth hangs upon nothing' then the Bible is in harmony with known science - Job 26:7
First of all, Elohim is Not God's name. God's name is as presented by the Tetragrammaton letters YHWH.
The killing of Isaac was showing faith and trust in a physical resurrection.
( All the resurrections Jesus performed with physical resurrections )
Remember God (YHWH)'s promise to Abraham and Sarah at Genesis 17:7,15-16, 21.
ALL nations would be blessed through Abraham - Genesis 18:18
By the time of Gen. 22:5 (before verse 10) we read about the confidence in a physical resurrection.
In verse 5 Abraham says, " I and the lad.... " (meaning Isaac) will come again (return) to you. (KJV)
In order for unmarried Isaac to have children Isaac would have to be alive / living.
Thus, they both (Abe and Isaac) believed in a future resurrection - Acts 24:15
How you got from point a to point b is only known to you.
Well then, don't apply for a job at Pew Research Center.
In that regard,
die Bibel ist nicht einmal falsch.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Huh?
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
You might want to read this: NAMES OF GOD - Complete list from Hebrew and the Bible
Names of God - Wikipedia
Israel is a ideology created to unite certain people.
Unfortunately it also divides those same people from others.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Not really as it is non-judgmental towards other religions. OTOH, Christianity has long been quite judgmental towards other faiths.
It's not just about religion though right?
Don't people presume at least a shared experience/history being Jewish?