Ben Dhyan
Veteran Member
Hmmm, thanks sis Octavia156, never knew of that Crowley quotation, good one. The quote I used was a Zen one from Wei Wu Wei."Oh secret of secrets that is hidden in the being of all that lives, not Thee do we adore, for That which adoreth is also Thou. Thou art THAT and THAT am I" - Liber XV.
I think we all agree the Aim of religion is reunion, union or reconnection.
First question - reunion with WHAT?
Second question - how can you apply the Scientific method to actualising this Reunion so that blind faith is unnecessary?
Reunion with the source of course. There is one source to all existence, call it what you will,... infinity, eternity, god, tao, nirvana, brahman, allah, oneness, cosmos, non-duality, big bang, etc..
It is not possible to use the scientific method because of the fundamental error of presumption that the scientist is separate from the that which reunion is sought with. The presumption of separation that requires reunion arises because the ego mind is self referenced in place and time. When the 'I' arises in the mind, 'not I' (the complementary opposite) simultaneously arises to describe all else in existence. The 'I' then engages in endless karmic entanglement with the environment (not I) it finds itself in, including science, truly believing itself to be separate.
Reunion, or more correctly union, otoh is the state of realization of the omnipresent underlying unity of the apparent multiplicity presented to sentience, without thought.
It is an extremely difficult goal to realize, and very few mortals are even interested, but it will save those who may have a stirring interest a lot of wasted life, to understand at the beginning that any teaching about transcending duality that doesn't explain that the very mind they are using to comprehend what is being taught is the obstacle that prevents the realization of non-duality, will prevent the realization of non-duality.
Now, for those who would like to think that the union/non-dual state of mind can be realized through the present mind which divides the underlying unity of existence into two parts, ie. me and not me, then fine, life will somehow find a way to reveal understanding not understanding.