nonbeliever_92
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What evidence for God
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Cordoba
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Your real existence on this earth is a sign of God's existence. Look around you, look at the heaven, the earth, the stars, the moon, the sun. Who is controlling this universe in a very accurate manner?
Look at your body and its sensitive systems and cells which govern it. These are sings of God's existence.
How did the universe come into being without a creator? How did the living being emerge? There must be a creator who is behind this flawless order of the universe.
The Neo Nerd
Well-Known Member
OMG You're right. I have no idea how this universe came into existence, there must be a god.
-Q
P.S. Was that too sarcastic? I can never tell with these types of things.
Mellonhead
Member
Oh oh! Let this noob answer the easy questions.
Existence means God: No, simple as that, that is just a baseless assumption.
Heaven: What's Heaven?
Earth: Is a chunk of rocked formed by debris that clumped together after the ignition of our sun.
Moon: This was formed after a comet hit the earth on a hard angle, breaking off a chunk and forming, falling in a stable orbit around the earth.
Stars: See Sun-
Sun: Hydrogen clumped together and was forced in upon itself into a tight sphere, the gravity caused friction enough to raise the temperature to 15 million degrees, causing nuclear fission to occur.
The body was formed by millions of years of evolution, plenty of time to figure out systems that work, other words we would all spontaneously die.
The universe was created, more likely then not, by the big bang. Who says an eternal creator had to be behind it? Why not matter that is eternal, as there is NO evidence that the building blocks of matter EVER break down.
Chemical reactions occur on there own all the time, this could have formed simple life which then evolved, go buy sea monkey's.
And the universe is NOT in flawless order, in fact it's quite erratic, in fact in about 3 billion years we have a date with Andromeda.
Mellonhead
Member
You have heard of the big bang theory right? Matter is already super compressed in a black hole, there is no reason this couldn't be the second, or even third (or fourth or fifth or sixth) time that the universe was exploded into existence, before being crushed back to a point to be recycled again.
The Neo Nerd
Well-Known Member
What makes you think some agent brought it into existence?
waitasec
Veteran Member
good question.
so god was hanging around for billions of years and all of a sudden decided to create life on this itsy bitsy planet...just so you can come with that conclusion?
doubt it.
Mellonhead
Member
good question.
so god was hanging around for billions of years and all of a sudden decided to create life on this itsy bitsy planet...just so you can come with that conclusion?
doubt it.
That doesn't cut it.
There are people who think a God created the universe then ditched out of boredom or some crap, and stuff kinda happened on its own.
waitasec
Veteran Member
Cordoba
Well-Known Member
good question.
so god was hanging around for billions of years and all of a sudden decided to create life on this itsy bitsy planet...just so you can come with that conclusion?
doubt it.
The point is this universe is not eternal
It has a starting point, which was around 14 billion years ago
The physical laws which govern this amazing universe are not random laws, but very precise, and this should make us think ...
A consistent and logical possible reason is that there is an intelligent, mighty power which brought the universe into existence, and it would make sense that this power is "eternal" ...
Mellonhead
Member
We are one planet, in one star system, in one galaxy.
There is a lot more material to work with.
waitasec
Veteran Member
how do you know it it's not eternal? it is expanding...
how do you know these laws are not random?
truth is, my little life is insignificant when it comes to the indifference nature has proven itself to be...
watching the tsunami do what it did reminded me that in the scheme of it all, observing natural law, it wasn't any more different than the ripple affect of throwing a rock in a shallow pond...
Mellonhead
Member
And that being, could very well be, the flying spaghetti monster.
waitasec
Veteran Member
How big the universe is and how small our earth is
consider...
about 98% of all the species that were "created" have gone extinct before we had anything to do with it
edit:
i just noticed the quote at the bottom...
isn't that giving humans an undue sense of importance?
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Mellonhead
Member
Wait, what does that have to do with anything regarding the size of the universe, which, I am very well aware of.
By the way, VY Canis Majoris is larger then Antares.
By the way, VY Canis Majoris is larger then Antares.
Cordoba
Well-Known Member
Maybe
But did a (flying spaghetti monster) ever claim that it created the universe?
The only claim for creating the universe worth thinking of comes from God in His Divine Book
Mellonhead
Member
And the only claim that he did so comes from man, I am a man, and my word is just as valid.
That is the beauty of my argument. *glee*
Actually no, that was pretentious. I'm sorry.
My point is that there is no proof he wrote the book. It is a work of fiction by man (my opinion) used, very affectively I might add, to control thought.