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What Do You Believe?

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
I believe that many religious beliefs either affect directly (through doctrine), or sustain, ridiculous views (and these often coming from cultural beliefs or feelings too) on various issues so as to effectively lower the intelligence of those believing whatever it is (perhaps giving such beliefs authority or thereby refusing to do the thinking or research necessary), when not having any such religious beliefs might not do so. And where reason and rationality, often aided by science, would likely produce less harms than having such beliefs - especially when these involve others, which so often is the case. Such things being - as to sexuality issues; moral behaviour; how we see reality, the past (especially human), and the future; and how we relate (or should relate) to other life, for example.

I believe we have a tendency, as a species, to take the easier course so often. An example being the many things that we tend to believe but which are not true - like God being in evidence because everything looks like it is designed. For me, the more one looks into nature, the more one doesn't see design as such but one does tend to see evolution as having produced what we have. I also believe it is all too easy to find explanations from religious beliefs as to human behaviour (sin and evil, for example) when explanations derived from an understanding of our evolved nature as humans can explain such things a lot better, and without all the attached judgements that so often come with religious beliefs.

Just a couple of issues, and hence why I don't see so many religions in any positive light. :oops:
 

Azrael Antilla

Active Member
What do you believe? This thread is open to expressing any kinds of beliefs be it beliefs from religion or not. Describe your beliefs concerning any subject of interest to you.
I believe that we are free to define our own meaning and purpose in this vast titantic universe, that is utterly indifferent to the follies and fancies of human beings. I believe the only thing that truly matters, beyond all else, is experiencing this life and appreciating it, and respecting the lifestyles and choices of others. I don't believe in living for the next world you cannot know, live for this world you do know, for from oblivion and chaos you physically arose and to oblivion and chaos you will physically return. That is practically certain. The cycle of life and death is nothing to fear, it's a process. Fear instead wasting the opportunity you have been given. Imo.
 

RestlessSoul

Well-Known Member
I believe we are all children of a loving God who is there for us in our hour of need. We may call that loving power God, YHVH, Allah, Krishna, Brahma, The Lord, The Father of Light, The Great Spirit, The One, The Source, The Infinite , The Eternal, or any of 99 or a thousand names, it doesn't matter. He, She, or It is always within us and within all living things, but this knowledge is blocked off from us by our own selfish fears and concerns, our egos, and our constant chattering minds.

The ego will go to any lengths, including destruction of the self, to prevent us making contact with the divine light within, but the light is always there, and one small candle is all that is needed to shed light to every corner of the darkness we are often lost in.

The knowledge of God, and the sustaining power of this realisation, can be found through prayer and meditation, in the silence which transcends the breath and the heartbeat. But it can also be found instantly, through admission of complete humility and helplessness, which is what seems to be required to silence the ego for a moment. This is what some recovering alcoholics mean when they talk about receiving the Gift Of Desperation.
 
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firedragon

Veteran Member
What do you believe? This thread is open to expressing any kinds of beliefs be it beliefs from religion or not. Describe your beliefs concerning any subject of interest to you.

I believe there violin is the best instrument for a child to learn how to play. I think so because as I have personally noticed, anyone who plays the violin finds it easier to learn any other musical instrument. Also, the violin is pretty straight forward to learn. So its a good foundation. Probably the best musical instrument one could learn to play.
 

Link

Veteran Member
Premium Member
What do you believe? This thread is open to expressing any kinds of beliefs be it beliefs from religion or not. Describe your beliefs concerning any subject of interest to you.

To me it's a simple choice. If God doesn't exist, there is no guidance, and the story is over. Live life for pleasure, have plenty of sex with whoever you want, and forget the oppressed and fight for truth, no honor will remain and the only thing in life is temporary pleasures. My morality would be hedonism and no need to sacrifice time for justice and truth and honor with God for humanity and trying to guide people.

Just be happy as much as you can.

If God exists, then it's a simple choice, do I rely on people or God's guidance? God's guidance in a form of book can be problematic because various interpretations and insights can be true and various interpretations and so called insights can be not true and lead astray. Thus we need interpreters to guide us to the proper view of the book and not rely on our own capacity or choose who think are best in capacity to understand Quran.

To me, there must be guidance from God in form of scripture and chosen leaders. Also governments are all corrupt and I know God would provide a king to establish justice in all times. It's our choice and always the choice of every generation if they wish to come to God and his King and get ruled by God.

I believe it's very deep Islam is, but also very simple, it's about relying on God's guidance and nothing else.

I don't need monks, clergy of any kind.

We need a leader like Simon if the leader appointed by God is hidden on earth, to lead us and organize politically and social, but even that has limits, and we need to rely foremost on Quran and hadiths to get guided in this respect. And we have to ask God to be guided by the leader appointed by God be he hidden or not.

Guidance from God is the true guidance.

I believe in God as a certain truth and don't doubt it/him/her, and so this foundation and reasoning makes me look for guidance from him.

Aside from that, even the very tone of Quran for every verse and word is a miracle. It's amazing and I believe it proves itself.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
What do you believe? This thread is open to expressing any kinds of beliefs be it beliefs from religion or not. Describe your beliefs concerning any subject of interest to you.

I believe that practice does not make perfect. It merely makes better.

And that "social" media is a cancer for society that should be cut out and removed.
 

Brickjectivity

wind and rain touch not this brain
Staff member
Premium Member
Belief is about reality and what we think is real, but without action belief is nothing but a puff. (So are rules and conscience) Its possible that only God is real and that all of us are within God. It is also possible that physical reality is all that exists with its cold and unconcerned march to death. We have to make a decision about how we are going to behave. Are we going to behave as if life doesn't matter or as if it does? Make a good decision about that, and don't be so concerned about what to think. Believe with your actions. Actions (not thoughts) are belief. I think you must live the reality that your conscience informs you is best, and put thoughts into 2nd place. I think you must ignore those who say otherwise who put words before actions or who fool themselves saying that thinking is believing.

When it comes to rules, we love rules except when they fail or intersect destructively with other rules. There comes a time when conscience and rules will clash. Then it becomes unclear, and you have three different voices. There is your own desire, there is the rule, and there is conscience. Sometimes the rule is better, sometimes your conscience and sometimes your desire. This is the confusing part.
 

Clara Tea

Well-Known Member
What do you believe? This thread is open to expressing any kinds of beliefs be it beliefs from religion or not. Describe your beliefs concerning any subject of interest to you.

EXISTENCE OF GOD:

Perhaps it is like Schroedinger's Cat. The cat is in a box with poison, and it has a probability of being dead or alive. Only when the box is opened do you determine if the cat is dead or alive, which removes all doubt. Quantum physics uses the same math to determine the position (or other state, such as spin, energy, or momentum) of small particles (such as subatomic particles, atoms, and molecules). As we look at larger systems of particles, those probabilities become certainties. It is like winning a roulette game in Las Vegas (you have a chance of beating the casino if you bet a few times, but, in the long run, the odds of beating the casino are severely small, because the house has an edge that will overwhelm random chance).

The wave functions of subatomic particles are imaginary (an imaginary number is a regular number or variable multiplied by the square root of negative one). The wave functions is the probability density function. Probability (of determining the state) is the magnitude squared of the wave function. This means that it is the wave function times the complex conjugate of the wave function.

If we add two complex vectors (complex numbers have both real and imaginary components), the Robertson-Shaw inequality shows that the maximum magnitude occurs when the two vectors are aligned. Applying this to energy and position, we come up with the Heisenburg Uncertainty Principle (which says that if we precisely know the position of a subatomic particle, we know nothing about its energy, and vice versa). This, of course, requires that the variables be random. But, the Einstein Podovski Rosen Paradox showed that some random numbers are dependent on other random numbers, so the Heisenburg Uncertainty Principle had to be modified to require variables that were random and statistically independent. The Einstein Podovski Rosen Paradox was about particles with spin 1 that randomly split, and, for purposes of understanding this, we can arrange one part on the top and the other part on the bottom, so that the sum of the top and bottom of the particles is always 1. Thus, the top is a series of random splits (lets say spins are 1/2, 1/4, and 1/3), which forces the bottom to be 1/2, 3/4, and 2/3), so that the top added to the bottom is always spin 1. You can see that the top is a series of random numbers and so is the bottom, but the top and bottom are statistically dependent.

Quantum mechanics considers that particles have a probability of both existing and not existing in the same spot.

ARE WE CONFUSING GOD AND THE DEVIL?

God laid down laws for us to follow. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife. But God doesn't follow his own rules. God had a baby (Jesus) with Mary, who was married to Joseph at the time. Pride is a deadly sin, yet one must worship God, and thou shalt not worship another God (such as the son of God). Thou shalt not kill, yet God flooded the world (in Noah's time).

God, they say, is love. Yet, God allowed his own son to have a crown of thorns, get stabbed in the abdomen, get tied or nailed to a cross (uncertain which, though bones of crucified victims of Rome had nail marks), and allowed Jesus to be left on the cross with no food or water, while bleeding to death. Why torture Jesus? Why remove Jesus from humans if Jesus was curing and feeding the sick and hungry? Why doesn't God answer prayers? Why does God, the most powerful being in the universe, who created the universe ask us to do anything for him? Isn't God capable of doing everything for himself? Could a blink of God's eye turn crucifiers into pigs? What would you do if your son was attacked? Was (or is) Jesus God, and if so, why did he talk to himself? Why did Jesus ask God "why hath thou forsaken me?"

RAISING THE BAR:

My friend walked on a rock pile, and found a rock, which he said was proof that God exists. Finding a rock on a rock pile is a certainty, and doesn't prove that God exists. The argument that God exists because someone found a rock on a rock pile is lame. I don't mind if someone tries to convince me that God exists if he makes sense, but if he is going to use lame arguments, don't blame me for pointing that out. I will try to provide stronger arguments to support and detract from their position.

MADE IN GOD'S IMAGE:

What is man's image? Are we Black, White, Asian, Indian? Are we tall, short, fat, thin? Perhaps the image of God is vague (two eyes, two ears...etc)? Perhaps the image of God has nothing to do with physical appearance (since God is a spirit and likely doesn't have an appearance)? Perhaps the image of God is his personality? (Good, bad, prideful, lustful, etc)? Maybe God knows his own flaws and warns us not to succumb to his faults? Why, then, blame us for the curiosity that our ancestors (Adam and Eve) had when they tasted the forbidden fruit? Didn't God make us with curiosity? Why blame us for sex if God made our sex organs? Why did God put temptation in our path (greed, etc)?

WHY DO I BELIEVE IN GOD?

God won't let me tell anyone how I know that he exists. To say how I know that God exists is to reveal to others that I have special ability to understand God's existence. God says that I (and everyone) must be humble, and not take credit. To take such credit is to share power with God, and God doesn't want to share power with anyone.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
I believe that many religious beliefs either affect directly (through doctrine), or sustain, ridiculous views (and these often coming from cultural beliefs or feelings too) on various issues so as to effectively lower the intelligence of those believing whatever it is (perhaps giving such beliefs authority or thereby refusing to do the thinking or research necessary), when not having any such religious beliefs might not do so. And where reason and rationality, often aided by science, would likely produce less harms than having such beliefs - especially when these involve others, which so often is the case. Such things being - as to sexuality issues; moral behaviour; how we see reality, the past (especially human), and the future; and how we relate (or should relate) to other life, for example.

I believe we have a tendency, as a species, to take the easier course so often. An example being the many things that we tend to believe but which are not true - like God being in evidence because everything looks like it is designed. For me, the more one looks into nature, the more one doesn't see design as such but one does tend to see evolution as having produced what we have. I also believe it is all too easy to find explanations from religious beliefs as to human behaviour (sin and evil, for example) when explanations derived from an understanding of our evolved nature as humans can explain such things a lot better, and without all the attached judgements that so often come with religious beliefs.

Just a couple of issues, and hence why I don't see so many religions in any positive light. :oops:

So your belief is fundamentally borne by the need to evangelise against theologies! ;)
 

Clara Tea

Well-Known Member
I believe OJ killed his ex-wife and Ron Goldman. I believe it because the evidence is very compelling.

As you point out, many things in life are uncertain, and we must decide without full knowledge. A personal acquaintance of mine, Kato Kaelin, who was living with Nicole Brown Simpson at the time of the murder, told me that he thinks that OJ was guilty and crazy.

Serial Killer Murdered Nicole Brown Simpson, New Documentary Claims

ABC News, November 2012: "Glen Rogers [aka Cross Country Killer] was arrested six weeks after Simpson, the famous football player and Brown's ex-husband, was acquitted of the murders. Police claimed Rogers went on a nationwide killing spree, allegedly murdering more than 70 people."

"Receipts show that Rogers was working as a house painter in Los Angeles at the time of the murders"...."Rogers later told a criminal profiler that Simpson had hired him to steal back a pair of expensive earrings from Brown. Simpson allegedly told Rogers that "you have to kill"

"Rogers was captured in 1995 after his family tipped off police about his location. He has received death sentences in California and Florida."

Glen Rogers Confesses to Murders of Ron Goldman, Nicole Brown Simpson

"Rogers told his brother and sister he was hanging around with Brown and said she was rich and he was going to “take her down.”"
 

HonestJoe

Well-Known Member
What do you believe? This thread is open to expressing any kinds of beliefs be it beliefs from religion or not. Describe your beliefs concerning any subject of interest to you.
I believe that if a person wishes to have pineapple on their own pizza, they should be free to do so, without insult or condemnation.
 
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