Wars or Pornography.... which to eliminate if you could only get rid of one??

[ChristineM]

Here i post some of the milder pornographic art. Also some of the milder war images.

Spoiler: Trigger: Pornography

Spoiler: Trigger: War

You choose

 

[PureX]

None of those artworks are pornographic. Look up the French painter Balthus. Some of his artworks could be considered pornographic.

 

[pearl]

Maybe 'Woodstock' had the right idea, 'make love not war'

 

[Revoltingest]

None of those artworks are pornographic. Look up the French painter Balthus. Some of his artworks could be considered pornographic.

I recommend looking away from what offends thee.

 

[Link]

War.

 

[ChristineM]

None of those artworks are pornographic. Look up the French painter Balthus. Some of his artworks could be considered pornographic.

I googled pornographic art and chose from the results.

Sorry if it upsets your view of art criticism

 

[Link]

However, I believe when people are apathetic, evil people rule and cause wars. And I believe sexual deviance leads to apathy and lack of mental clarity in politics.

A society without Taqwa will oppress others or be oppressed.

 

[Polymath257]

People documenting and sharing sexual acts for their own pleasure is their own private concern. But when money becomes the motive, it perverts the reality of it. Greed poisons everything it touches, and it makes porn toxic. Especially to people who don't understand that it's all fake. That it's praying on people's ignorance and weakness for profit. And there are many of these people.

You could say the same about any art form. Doing it for money can poison it. Or, it can make it so that artists can actually survive and do more art.

 

[Polymath257]

Get rid of war.

Promote good porn.

 

[Link]

Get rid of war.

Promote good porn.

If you can get rid of war without getting rid of love of superficial world and apathy, I wouldn't even care for porn. But reality, is one evil compliments another. Justice is impossible when people succumb to their desires. It breaks fabric of society when honor is destroyed - justice becomes impossible to implement when honor is not honored and shameless acts are promoted.

 

[Revoltingest]

I googled pornographic art and chose from the results.

Sorry if it upsets your view of art criticism

There's a famous quote about pornography attributed to
Justice Potter Stewart, ie, "I know it when I see it."
It originated when he was struggling with how to describe
pornography His law clerk, Alan Novak said to him...
"Mr. Justice, you will know it when you see it."
So Stewart incorporated this into his opinion.

I say that Stewart was wrong.
I have the truth.
You may quote me....
"Purex knows it when he sees it."

Oh, & just in case it's not clear,
I'd get rid of war, not porn.

 

[ChristineM]

There's a famous quote about pornography attributed to
Justice Potter Stewart, ie, "I know it when I see it."
It originated when he was struggling with how to describe
pornography His law clerk, Alan Novak said to him...
"Mr. Justice, you will know it when you see it."
So Stewart incorporated this into his opinion.

I say that Stewart was wrong.
I have the truth.
You may quote me....
"Purex knows it when he sees it."

Oh, & just in case it's not clear,
I'd get rid of war, not porn.

Is there such a thing as elitist porn?

 

[Revoltingest]

Is there such a thing as elitist porn?

 

[PureX]

I recommend looking away from what offends thee.

Slavery and rape offend me, but looking away isn't much of a solution.

 

[Revoltingest]

Slavery and rape offend me, but looking away isn't much of a solution.

Yes....slavery & rape are the same as pornography.
Geeze, Louise....get a grip, fella.

 

[PureX]

I googled pornographic art and chose from the results.

Sorry if it upsets your view of art criticism

Oh, well, Google! How can I possibly argue with that!

The reason the examples you posted are not pornography is because they are intended to be idealizations of the human body as expressions of physical beauty, not as an objects for sexual use. Did you look up Balthus' paintings? It might help to illuminate the difference.

 

[PureX]

Yes....slavery & rape are the same as pornography.
Geeze, Louise....get a grip, fella.

It's all under the same umbrella of human beings exploiting and abusing other humans beings for profit. If you can down-play it to serve your agenda, I can up-play it to serve mine.

 

[Revoltingest]

It's all under the same umbrella of human beings exploiting and abusing other humans beings for profit. If you can down-play it to serve your agenda, I can up-play it to serve mine.

Slavery & rape are never voluntary.
Sex work is voluntary. The exceptions are of course
immoral. But even housekeeping, road building,
construction, etc, have involved slavery....that doesn't
make those occupations immoral.

Do you believe that sex sacred, & is that your
fundamental reason to oppose all sex work?

 

[PureX]

Slavery & rape are never voluntary.

"Voluntary" is irrelevant. I could "volunteer" to sell you my right arm so you could mount it on your wall, but that doesn't make it something society should accept.

 

[Revoltingest]

"Voluntary" is irrelevant. I could "volunteer" to sell you my right arm so you could mount it on your wall, but that doesn't make it something society should accept.

Why do you consider sex work wrong, if not because of
coercion...is sex sacred, ie, wrong to make money from?