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Victims of Communism

Woberts

The Perfumed Seneschal
Yet i've seen you defend communist China, which killed more Chinese people than the Japanese killed, and killed for more people than the Nazis did.

Why defend something so blatantly atrocious?
You're equating an economic policy with the actions of a state fueled by blind loyalty towards their leader.
 

Little Dragon

Well-Known Member
For whatever reasons the stories of people victimized by varied communist governments does not get much coverage, and thus we do not fully realize the horrors still being visited upon the people of China, Cuba & other nations.
Here are a few examples, told by those who personally knew what happened:

https://www.victimsofcommunism.org/witnessproject
Not all communist governments are bad. I went to Vietnam last month. Very communist. Very friendly. The economy is zipping along nicely. It can be done right.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Not all communist governments are bad. I went to Vietnam last month. Very communist. Very friendly. The economy is zipping along nicely. It can be done right.
It's not communist.

Names of parties don't always match the economic system.
Vietnam not only allows private property, it even allows
private ownership of the means of production.
 

Little Dragon

Well-Known Member
It's not communist.

Names of parties don't always match the economic system.
Vietnam not only allows private property, it even allows
private ownership of the means of production.
"The economy of Vietnam is a developing mixed socialist-oriented market economy, which is the 36th-largest in the world as measured by nominal gross domestic product (GDP) and 26th-largest in the world as measured by purchasing power parity (PPP) in 2022. Vietnam is a member of the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation, the Association of Southeast Asian Nations and the World Trade Organization."

Vietnam like most other nations, has a mixture of state and private ownership.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
''The state and party are guided by Hồ Chí Minh Thought. Vietnam is a socialist republic with a one-party system led by the Communist Party. The CPV espouses Marxism–Leninism and Hồ Chí Minh Thought, the ideologies of the late Hồ Chí Minh.''

As I said, one can't go by the party label.
My claim really resonates with socialists when I bring
up the National Socialist German Workers' Party. They
always insist that Mr Schicklgruber wasn't a socialist.
(I don't want to use his other name.)
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
"The economy of Vietnam is a developing mixed socialist-oriented market economy, which is the 36th-largest in the world as measured by nominal gross domestic product (GDP) and 26th-largest in the world as measured by purchasing power parity (PPP) in 2022. Vietnam is a member of the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation, the Association of Southeast Asian Nations and the World Trade Organization."

Vietnam like most other nations, has a mixture of state and private ownership.
Calling a market economy "communist" is a misnomer though.
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
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