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Well, people can go on saying "gay marriage" it just hurts my ears.
And now all of you have the pleasure of knowing why. LOL
And now all of you have the pleasure of knowing why. LOL
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Even if the word marriage is a noun...I still dont see how since it involves two seperate people..or even multiple ingredients
I think that "married" there is used as a periphrastic participle with the verb "got."
O well, we say what we say with little need for rhyme or reason.
doppelgänger;1325970 said:And even today it's not. It's used metaphorically in the context of any combination of things that work in harmony to augment one another as a single whole. "The greatest meals are those that express the perfect marriage of taste, creativity and presentation."
Yeah, it could change. There is a possibility that we can completely forgo the fundamental meanings of Latin and Greek roots as we build our words.
Language usage doesn't require any parsing.I hope that doesn't happen, because it will be more and more difficult to understand what a word means by parsing it. And I'm referring to quite simple things, like "bi" meaning "two" and so on.
doppelgänger;1325975 said:Which we do all the time.
doppelgänger;1325975 said:Language usage doesn't require any parsing.
That was marital, not martial. The root is "marry". It's a common convention to tack "-al" on the end of a word to indicate "of" or "for". In this case, this would create an awkward juxtaposition of vowels (i.e. "marry-al"), hence the t.Are you confused about the "t" in "matrimony" as being unrelated to "marriage" and then list martial and married together?
Yes, I certainly agree.
I'll be waiting then, someone to show me a four sided triangle. And the need for cornered circles, or possibly a three-wheeled bicycle.
Or like "oxy" meaning "acid"? Many acids contain no oxygen, and many oxygen compounds are not acidic.Yeah, it could change. There is a possibility that we can completely forgo the fundamental meanings of Latin and Greek roots as we build our words. I hope that doesn't happen, because it will be more and more difficult to understand what a word means by parsing it. And I'm referring to quite simple things, like "bi" meaning "two" and so on.
Well, people can go on saying "gay marriage" it just hurts my ears.
And now all of you have the pleasure of knowing why. LOL
And if the meanings change in common usage and you insist on parsing . . . then you aren't going to understand anything.I'm talking about interpretation - or understanding other people in communication or reading. If we just start using random words without any association to shared meanings, we won't understand anything.
doppelgänger;1325985 said:And if the meanings change in common usage and you insist on parsing . . . then you aren't going to understand anything.
I'm talking about interpretation - or understanding other people in communication or reading. If we just start using random words without any association to shared meanings, we won't understand anything.
Off the top of my head,:thud:
Dopp, I mean building words that use fundamental Latin roots (like these) but have no association with the root whatsoever.
Where does this happen in English?
It's completely relevant! All of these words are built directly on their roots, just like marriage.
Off the top of my head,
- many cameras have no chamber.
- in Canada, the word "hydro" is used for all electric utility power, not just that generated from hydroelectricity.
- many logos contain no words whatsoever.
- "dictate" applies to any sort of commands, not just spoken ones.
- ecology is the study of the world's environment, not houses
- "homophobia" is applied to hatred of homosexuals, not just fear.
- glossy paint does not involve licking or tongues.
These Latin and Greek roots have shown incredible stability, and are still stable enough to render some usages of words as senseless and useless.
Then so is "marriage" applied to gays and lesbians. You just broaden what you emphasize as the meaning of the root, which is why you can say "hydro," while having nothing to do with water, could still be related to its root. Like I said, we do this all the time.All of these examples, though, still have relationships to their roots.
I'm talking about interpretation - or understanding other people in communication or reading. If we just start using random words without any association to shared meanings, we won't understand anything.
doppelgänger;1326004 said:Now THAT is an oxymoron.
That's the thing. We're not just using random words without any association to shared meanings. That would be ridiculous. The fact is that pretty much anyone understands the term "gay marriage". We are using shared meanings, that's how we communicate. Those shared meanings change over time, though. The shared meaning of "Marriage" now is "a [supposed] lifelong union between two people [who love each other]". You're the one ignoring the shared meaning.