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Featured The Words spoken by Jesus His Pre-Eminence.

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Yahcubs777, Apr 6, 2021 at 3:41 PM.

  1. Fool

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    thanks for pointing out that jesus didn't say to worship himself as god absolute. there is no exact image for god given all men are created in the image of god and are gods.
     
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    Do you really think that answers these questions?

    1. The verse is Matthew 19:17. On what basis do you say it is in error?
    2. You quoted just two verses following this. How do you decide this is an error, but what you quoted is not?
     
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    If there was to be an image to worship, then there would have been ways to record the image of Jesus His Pre-Eminence for later generations to see. But HE came at a time when there was no such thing in the earth. They have claimed that GOD desires worship. This claim is so ignorant its amazing to me. For then I would ask: Who worshipped the GOD before HE started creating?
    If GOD wanted worship, HE would have come in the earth periodically, for all to see, and receive the worship of the people.

    The one that desires worship, is lucifer. And that is also showing that lucifer cannot enter into this planet. Else, he would have, and he would have demanded worship globally as he did to the Angels in heaven.

    The Image of GOD is Father Adam, the only begotten Son of GOD.
     
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    It is the only answer. Take it or leave it. I say openly that the bible has errors, and this is among the things that must be restored. But go and learn what that means so that you will understand.
    I desire to know my GOD, not to sacrifice food unto idols. And therefore i do not accept anything written that is not in agreement with the GOD i know.
     
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    Cheers.
     
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    Exactly. As I said, you pick what you like from the same bible, the same book, the same chapter, just a few verses apart, and since one verse doesnt match your "existing belief", you dismiss it by hook, or crook.

    Cheers.
     
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    Who told you that?
    The whole story of Jesus is written in four gospels, and even they need careful scrutiny for additions and embellishments. Jesus was real, for sure, but that's it, as far as I can see, Yahcub.
     
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    These are revelations being dispensed in the earth today; Revelations that are unveiling that which was veiled. For what GOD has veiled no man can unveil except that man be sent by the GOD, taught by the GOD directly. This may be difficult for you to accept being a deist. These are the kinds of messages that are beyond gain say. Its either you agree, or disagree, but they are not debateable. For the truth is not debateable.

    My Man of GOD is revealing all these things.
     
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    I am not a believer. I will give you one last example.

    If you knowing your biological father, heard a certain rumour about him that seemed to contradict what you know, would you immeditately accept that as true? Would you ask your father, or would you ask your mother, or wouldyou keep it to yourself and discard it as a rumour? Or would you take it as true and let it affect what you already know about him?

    You need not answer me. This is given for you to know what I am saying.
     
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    The Words of GOD are food for the Spirit, not the brain. Parables were spoken for this reason:

    10And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables? 11He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given. 12For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath. 13Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
     
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    Very bad analogy.
     
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    Yahcubs......... you've written all this in a debates section, all that which you claim is not debatable.

    I can acknowledge your beliefs and faith, Yahcubs. But you are claiming certitude.

    All I know is that the gospels, shed of their embellishments, tell a wonderful history about two men who stood up against Temple and Priesthood corruption. That's the history ........ :blush:
     
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    My claim on whether it is debatable unfortunately doesn't stop people debating. I wanted to avoid moderation.
    That said I am certain of the things Ive shared. Thanks for your friendly replies though I appreciate them.
     
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    OK.....
    I find certainty, or certitude to be unusual in that most Christians have Faith, as in 'The Christian Faith'.

    I don't point this at you, but I wouldn't want to batter against what folks believe in, as long as it doesn't impact on anybody else. But I do get cautious when folks tell me that their way and their God is only right and that every other religion or belief or politic is 'clinging to Satan', or that kind of attitude. Because a majority of folks like that could become a theocracy and that would be my idea of hell on Earth. :)
     
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    What i say, is not of faith but knowledge. Faith is the opposite of knowledge. And i am not kicking against any specific religions, but all religion. I speak of the GOD I know, not the god of any religion. i appreciate your replies. Thank you.
     
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