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*Shrugs* I too do not take or promote recreational drug use, but I still condemn the lack of foresight of Abdul-Baha in going to war on drugs since He was supposed to be connected to God through Baha'u'llah.
In my opinion.
We don't need access to the future, the war on drugs is a past event we can analyse in hindsight.I can not comment on what the future may reveal in regards to this.
Education is the best solution to that.We are too close to a society that thinks the taking of recreational drugs is OK. I recently watched the story of Oxycodone.
Bet there are many more in Columbia who experienced life under the war on drugs who are opposed to such a law.Bet there is many people wishing that this law was implemented long ago.
Regards Tony
I have not watched the "story of Oxycodone" (Is that on Netflix?) But have watched "Narcos" (you may wish to skip the scenes portraying nudity in it, but it gives a good idea of the violence unleashed upon Columbia during the war on drugs).
Bet there are many more in Columbia who experienced life under the war on drugs who are opposed to such a law.
Sorry I dont understand your question, do you mean how did they get away with the violence? They didn't ultimately, but in the many years it took to eliminate them due to the influence of their massive cash fortunes they carried out violent campaigns of intimidation that killed many.It was Disney Plus, called "Dopesick" One season.
How they got away with it?
Regards Tony
Well it will be hard to eliminate poverty until humans discontinue over producing, fortunately education seems to have had a good effect on that though so maybe there is hope it can be eliminated.I see It will require the effort of every Nation and every Government.
It is hard to educate when poverty is the way of life, so lots of changes are required and as to how that war will be waged in the future, is yet to be decided.
Regards Tony
Sorry I dont understand your question, do you mean how did they get away with the violence? They didn't ultimately, but in the many years it took to eliminate them due to the influence of their massive cash fortunes they carried out violent campaigns of intimidation that killed many.
In my opinion.
What InvestigateTruth says below makes it sound like a great tribulation is predicted by the Baha'i Faith before the world comes together. That is what I had always heard also. Do you agree?"Whether peace is to be reached only after unimaginable horrors precipitated by humanity’s stubborn clinging to old patterns of behaviour,.."
I dont think The calamity that Bahai scriptures talk about has come yet. It will be something that will shake the limbs of mankind. A great population of the world will be gone. First this happens, then people start thinking really seriously why it happend. Then only after this, the world will change and peace comes.
Not really, addicts OD-ing is a relatively peaceful way to go that doesn't take members of the public, government and law enforcement agencies with them unlike the war on drugs. To accurately reflect what Abdul-Baha was saying you would have to demonstrate that there was a beneficial effect that outweighed "any means whatsoever".These statistics show it is still an issue. It also reflects what Abdul'baha offered about opioids
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Regards Tony
What InvestigateTruth says below makes it sound like a great tribulation is predicted by the Baha'i Faith before the world comes together. That is what I had always heard also. Do you agree?
Not really, addicts OD-ing is a relatively peaceful way to go that doesn't take members of the public, government and law enforcement agencies with them
Well some estimates put the number of police officers killed by the Medellin cartel alone at 5,000 and the number of people killed at more than 100,000. How do you think the family and friends of those slain people and police officers felt? Take that and add the numbers killed by all the other cartels and you'll have something to compare the mental anguish of those who have OD'd during and since the war on drugs anyway (perhpas even partly because of it).That response I see neglects to consider all the damage, hurt and pain caused to family and friends and to all those that suffered as a result of the illegal activity used to purchase the substance. Inclusive of the mental anguish suffered by law enforcement.
Regards Tony
Well some estimates put the number of police officers killed by the Medellin cartel alone at 5,000 and the number of people killed at more than 100,000. How do you think the family and friends of those slain people and police officers felt? Take that and add the numbers killed by all the other cartels and you'll have something to compare the mental anguish of those who have OD'd during and since the war on drugs anyway (perhpas even partly because of it).
In my opinion.
I'm not saying drugs are good, I agree they are bad, but the US war on drugs caused a great many police and civilian deaths that may not have happened if we weren't trying to kill the leaders of the cartels simply for doing business Tony.So this all adds up to how bad Opium has been, supporting what Abdul'baha offered.
Imagine if they got on top of this back in the early 1990's.
Regards Tony
It's a common feature of proselytizing religions, pyramid schemes, and multi-level marketing rackets that they use rhetoric that they're about something greater:That is what I see happening.
The world events are fully reflecting both the promise of a United Future and the destruction of an old dysfunctional Old World Order.
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So when will we get there, the Baha'i Universal House of Justice offered this in the 1985 Peace Message.
"Whether peace is to be reached only after unimaginable horrors precipitated by humanity’s stubborn clinging to old patterns of behaviour, or is to be embraced now by an act of consultative will, is the choice before all who inhabit the earth. At this critical juncture when the intractable problems confronting nations have been fused into one common concern for the whole world, failure to stem the tide of conflict and disorder would be unconscionably irresponsible."
It has been foretold that for peace to become established, it will need this event to unfold.
"The time must come when the imperative necessity for the holding of a vast, an all-embracing assemblage of men will be universally realized. The rulers and kings of the earth must needs attend it, and, participating in its deliberations, must consider such ways and means as will lay the foundations of the world's Great Peace amongst men. Such a peace demandeth that the Great Powers should resolve, for the sake of the tranquillity of the peoples of the earth, to be fully reconciled among themselves. Should any king take up arms against another, all should unitedly arise and prevent him. If this be done, the nations of the world will no longer require any armaments, except for the purpose of preserving the security of their realms and of maintaining internal order within their territories. This will ensure the peace and composure of every people, government and nation."
Bahá’u’lláh, Gleanings from the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 248
That will reflect what is offered in this passage.
"The time has come when all mankind shall be united, when all races shall be loyal to one fatherland, all religions become one religion, and racial and religious bias pass away. It is a day in which the oneness of humankind shall uplift its standard and international peace, like the true morning, flood the world with its light." – Abdu’l-Baha, The Promulgation of Universal Peace, p. 153.
The world events are giving credence to this statement.
"Unification of the whole of mankind is the hall-mark of the stage which human society is now approaching. Unity of family, of tribe, of city-state, and nation have been successively attempted and fully established. World unity is the goal towards which a harassed humanity is striving. Nation-building has come to an end. The anarchy inherent in state sovereignty is moving towards a climax. A world, growing to maturity, must abandon this fetish, recognize the oneness and wholeness of human relationships, and establish once for all the machinery that can best incarnate this fundamental principle of its life. – Shoghi Effendi, The World Order of Baha’u’llah, p. 202.
Does your path or faith offer such a vision of a path to peace in this age?
If so, please share.
Regards Tony
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