the golden calf in the bible.

[oldbadger]

We can only be serving God or Mammon, there is no third option.

Most of the world worships Mammon, Trump and Biden are both part of Mammon worship. Anything made with hands or conceived in our hearts and minds or anything we hold in higher esteem to God is an idol.

i don't idolise Trump but I know he facilitates people to worship God, while the Liberals want to make it illegal to even proclaim what He said about anything.

So you do support President Trump and his materialism. While I accept that he has kept his LGBT friends and colleagues close, not discarding them, most of his policies are complete Mammon imo.

 

[oldbadger]

But he looked even more bonkers and desperate in the hair dye incident.

And then the guy with horns, just roaring like an animal......

And now, the exquisite apotheosis of a personality cult of tacky bling.....

So what's gone wrong with our lot?
Can't Boris or Sir.. sir...(forgothisname) give a media broadcast in front of Suzie's Parlour, or Boris with a blue rinse might possibly keep up, .......?
....but we're slipping...... Letting the side down.

 

[exchemist]

So what's gone wrong with our lot?
Can't Boris or Sir.. sir...(forgothisname) give a media broadcast in front of Suzie's Parlour, or Boris with a blue rinse might possibly keep up, .......?
....but we're slipping...... Letting the side down.

Well we have had Dylan the dog, humping Cummings's leg.... and then doing the same to the stuffed foot of an elephant, shot by Teddy Roosevelt, at Chequers: Johnson is subdued but his dog is causing havoc. Are you thinking what I'm thinking? | Marina Hyde

But I have to agree that is not in the same league of tastelessness, vulgarity and general lack of self-awareness.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

The bible mentions not to worship the golden calf.
To the christians that more or less worship Trump, here's your golden calf that people had to take pictures with and rally around.

Please keep in mind that genuine ' wheat ' Christians do Not in any way worship any president. (Matthew 13:36-40; Matthew 7:21-23)
It would only be the fake 'weed/tares' Christians that would do such a thing. ( The pretence so-called Christians of Christendom )
Jesus and 1st-century follower were always politically neutral.
They did Not even get involved in the issues of the day between the Jews and Romans.

 

[Fallen Prophet]

The bible mentions not to worship the golden calf.
To the christians that more or less worship Trump, here's your golden calf that people had to take pictures with and rally around.

Golden Trump statue turns heads at CPAC - CNNPolitics

Huge exaggeration.

 

[Pilgrim Soldier]

Yeah, reading is not your strong side. I wrote social democracy, not socialistic democracy or even democratic socialism.

Social democracy is not socialistic democracy/democratic socialism.

You can dress it up as anything you like, but if it quacks like a duck and walks like a duck then it's a duck. You guys never stop inventing new names for communism. Humanism socialism, liberal, progressive, new age, globalism or what ever else you want to label it, the result is still mass culling when you run out of other peoples money

 

[Pilgrim Soldier]

I have no idea who is the greater or lesser of two evils because the government and media only let us know what they want to let us know. I automatically assume from the outset that the politician is corrupt and all that matters is how affected we are by that corruption. The world is heading towards globalisation but I disagree with it because of how it affects the country. Politicians should solely focus on the country so that the country is self sufficient rather than be dependent on the economy and resources of a worldwide community of other countries which results in internal problems caused by external factor that have nothing to do with the country itself.

Ironically though, America was the cause of globalism as it wanted to create a worldwide capitalist system centred around the US. Now that is backfiring with China gaining power which makes the economy centred around China which is good for China but nobody else.

So I prefer economic isolation because it makes the individual country strong and increases the wellbeing of its people whereas a global society leaves individual countries and its people in shambles, struggling to survive.

I agree with everything you said except for "America was the cause of globalism" Those Americans who packed up their industries and took them to China are not American's, they're globalists who don't give a damn about America.
They created the global economy which operates on the "race to the bottom" motto, where the guy who's willing to stoop to the lowest depth gets the contract.
China offered to sell it's citizens at the cheapest labour rate so it got all the factories from around the world set up shop there.

Now Biden expects Americans to compete with the Chinese in that race to the bottom. This can't possibly end well for the US.

 

[Samael_Khan]

I agree with everything you said except for "America was the cause of globalism" Those Americans who packed up their industries and took them to China are not American's, they're globalists who don't give a damn about America.
They created the global economy which operates on the "race to the bottom" motto, where the guy who's willing to stoop to the lowest depth gets the contract.
China offered to sell it's citizens at the cheapest labour rate so it got all the factories from around the world set up shop there.

Now Biden expects Americans to compete with the Chinese in that race to the bottom. This can't possibly end well for the US.

Maybe it is more accurate for me to say that Rich American Mono[polies created globalism? I can't say that all Americans did that.

The rich generally care about themselves and their own promotion, and use those in the middle and the bottom of the economic ladder as wage slaves.

I find these corporations very hypocritical which proves your point. They promote "human rights" buy advertising how they support LGBTQ rights and BLM, firing those who disagree with them in many cases, yet they do business with China which is a Tyranny, and at the moment are killing and raping muslims. They are not genuine and they are just doing things to make their image look good and to gain money.

 

[Pilgrim Soldier]

He did not say "socialist democracy".

Social (not socialist) democracy is a well-established term from European politics. He's a Dane, you see.

Details here: Social democracy - Wikipedia

Yes I know all about the smoke and mirrors, you can play until your number comes up

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

You can dress it up as anything you like, but if it quacks like a duck and walks like a duck then it's a duck. You guys never stop inventing new names for communism. Humanism socialism, liberal, progressive, new age, globalism or what ever else you want to label it, the result is still mass culling when you run out of other peoples money

Yeah, you control reality. Well, some of us can still do it differently, than how you claim, we do it.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Yes I know all about the smoke and mirrors, you can play until your number comes up

Yeah, you control reality. Yet some of us still get away with doing it differently.

 

[wellwisher]

The bible mentions not to worship the golden calf.
To the christians that more or less worship Trump, here's your golden calf that people had to take pictures with and rally around.

Golden Trump statue turns heads at CPAC - CNNPolitics

The "golden calf" had an impact on the human psyche, connected to the subjective induction associated with art. Any good work of art can make you feel something. This feeling can be positive, negative or in the middle. One is not indifferent to a good work of art. The master pieces of art will impact the widest range of humans with some type of neural induction. If you look at Michelangelo, Pietà, one can feel the spirits of art; subjective enhancement.

If you go to an art museum, with mostly master pieces, the total experience will have an impact on the brain. Buttons can be pushed whether you like it or not. This same type of art induction could be induced by the golden calf. I am sure it was quite breath taking.

The people of that time felt and explained the neural induction as being due to the spirit or "god" within the golden calf. They did not understand this was actually connected to an affec inside their own brains. The golden calf, since it was made of gold, with gold more or less universal in terms of an awe induction, put the art affect over the top. Some knowledge of psychology would b needed to see through this, which was not available at that time.

Trump was/is not a work of art, but rather was a real person, who in spite of the lying press and the conspiring and obstructionist Democrats, managed to set many records in terms of presidential job performance; record low unemployment, rebuilt the most powerful military in history, created the most robust economy, etc. This is not the same thing. The golden calf did nothing but look pretty, with its induction subjective and its extrapolation, induced and imaginary.

A more modern example of the "full golden calf affect", are Designer clothes versus well made knock offs. Both can look pretty much the same; special art They will differ by the label. Labels make it too easy to intercept knock off imports, so the proper label may not be attached. Even without the official label, people in the know will still golden calf react to the knock off clothes, when the label is hidden by the wearer.

Like the golden calf, the gold label of the designer, will create a secondary subjective enhancement of worth; induced prestige affect. Unlike art, this type of free market product not only create a natural induction, but there is also a secondary overlay affect, molded by the culture superego; free market salesmanship. If you brought these same clothes to a place where the designer is not known, so the secondary affect is not induced, all you will get is the natural art affect for both sets of fine clothes.

The taboo of the golden calf was not entirely do to the natural art affect, but mostly due to the superego of the Egyptian culture, creating a secondary induction, via gold, that conditioned people, as to how they needed to react to the subjectivity of the art; bow before the the god. The pet rock had no natural art value, but could induce based on a marketing overlay.

God was different in that he was real and had a proven record of job performance; plagues of Egypt. This was not a marketing scam, since all people saw the real time results, and not just the word of the propagandists of the day.

Biden used more golden calf affect than Trump. Biden seemed like a nice guy with a natural art affect due to his relaxed continence. However, since he did not campaign, but was campaigned for by the media, and his current performance in office was not the same as what was being sold, by his handlers, he was like a trojan horse art, that was let into the Leftist centrist brain.

The fake news media did try to create a negative golden calf overlay, onto Trump; negative pet rock affect, which seemed to only work for Leftist. The question becomes, why is the Left more vulnerable to golden calf style inductions? The answer has to do with their reasoning having been watered down by feelings and emotions. The art affect is emotional; feelings inducing thought. Their induced feeling nature makes them more vulnerable to golden calf subjective overlays. This long nurtured neural foundation of feelings, made the faux affect image of the golden calf, more important than hard reality data. God would have trimmed this fat, back in then time of Moses, since the story is about common sense superseding subjectivity.

 

[exchemist]

Yes I know all about the smoke and mirrors, you can play until your number comes up

Smoke and mirrors? Social Democrats have been in power in several European countries, for considerable lengths of time. These countries are stable democracies.

 

[Pilgrim Soldier]

Maybe it is more accurate for me to say that Rich American Mono[polies created globalism? I can't say that all Americans did that.

The rich generally care about themselves and their own promotion, and use those in the middle and the bottom of the economic ladder as wage slaves.

I find these corporations very hypocritical which proves your point. They promote "human rights" buy advertising how they support LGBTQ rights and BLM, firing those who disagree with them in many cases, yet they do business with China which is a Tyranny, and at the moment are killing and raping muslims. They are not genuine and they are just doing things to make their image look good and to gain money.

Whilst it's encouraging to hear folks like yourself know what's going on, the sad reality is your kind are few and far between. The elite thrive on the ignorance of the masses, most people can't see the big picture. Their world view is prefabricated and sold to them just like any other consumer product.

Many of my friends tell me they don't believe in conspiracy theories, when i try to share some of the facts regarding the new world order, globalism, agenda 2030 and the great reset. As long as the vast majority of people reject any alternative vies, these people will continue to gain more and more wealth and power.

The most effective way to control the masses is through fear, the idea is to create a crisis then offer the only possible solution and punish anyone who doesn't accept the scam.

 

[Pilgrim Soldier]

Yeah, you control reality. Well, some of us can still do it differently, than how you claim, we do it.

Nobody has a monopoly on reality, since reality can only be in the past tense when things have already happened and they can't be changed.

We have over 6000 years of human history and political systems and models to evaluate. If you believe you can take a fundamentally flawed system and rehabilitate it, you're kidding yourself.

 

[Pilgrim Soldier]

Smoke and mirrors? Social Democrats have been in power in several European countries, for considerable lengths of time. These countries are stable democracies.

A maximum security prison is also stable, but how happy is it's population. Those supposedly stable European countries are basket cases, where nobody is happy with the government. The socialists are demanding more free money and the poor democratic tax payers are forced to work harder and harder for less money.

 

[exchemist]

A maximum security prison is also stable, but how happy is it's population. Those supposedly stable European countries are basket cases, where nobody is happy with the government. The socialists are demanding more free money and the poor democratic tax payers are forced to work harder and harder for less money.

You think people are unhappy in Denmark? In Sweden? In Germany? These are among the countries with the most contented populations on the planet. And why do you keep talking about "socialists"?

 

[Pilgrim Soldier]

You think people are unhappy in Denmark? In Sweden? In Germany? These are among the countries with the most contented populations on the planet. And why do you keep talking about "socialists"?

There are only 2 possible models of government, 1. Totalitarian dictatorships such as Fascism-Communism - Socialism and every other "ism" they're all the same.
2. Is Capitalism - Democracy. The first model is where the individual has no value or voice, he is nothing more than an expendable animal to be used anyway the government sees fit.
The second model is where the individual has infinite value, and he is free to choose his own course in life and the role of the government is to punish evil doers and manage all the government departments like defence, police, health, education, land management etc.

As you can see the first model uses people as their slaves and the second model facilitates people to excel and create wealth and security. This should be a simple choice but such is the power of deception that many have taken the poison bate.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Nobody has a monopoly on reality, since reality can only be in the past tense when things have already happened and they can't be changed.

We have over 6000 years of human history and political systems and models to evaluate. If you believe you can take a fundamentally flawed system and rehabilitate it, you're kidding yourself.

Well, here it is. There are no political systems that in practice rely on a single, universal and absolute fact. Rather all systems are a combination of several factors, which they all weigh differently.

So if you take a part of one system and combine it with another, you in fact get a third system. But as long as you claim relevant for this debate that there are 2 distinct pure systems, which can't in fact be combined and it is either the one or the other and there are no 3rd system possible I can't help you.
You are doing in effect an assumption in your thinking of the following kind:
It is either X or Y and both X and Y are monolithic and not in effect both several different aspects in the everyday world. So it is not possible to observe combinations, because that won't work, because it is either X or Y in the strong sense.

So here it is: I am either advocated X or Y, because Z is not possible, because there is on X or Y in reality. The answer is no! You if look for Z and don't assume that only X and Y is possible, you can observe Z.
I can't help you that you are doing this: False Dilemma Fallacy
So you claim only X and Y, yet I am doing Z.

Regards
Mikkel

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

There are only 2 possible models of government, 1. Totalitarian dictatorships such as Fascism-Communism - Socialism and every other "ism" they're all the same.
2. Is Capitalism - Democracy. The first model is where the individual has no value or voice, he is nothing more than an expendable animal to be used anyway the government sees fit.
The second model is where the individual has infinite value, and he is free to choose his own course in life and the role of the government is to punish evil doers and manage all the government departments like defence, police, health, education, land management etc.

As you can see the first model uses people as their slaves and the second model facilitates people to excel and create wealth and security. This should be a simple choice but such is the power of deception that many have taken the poison bate.

So you can show that something has infinite value. I would like with reason, logic and evidence that you demonstrate this and not just write it with words.