Why, of course it would not. Why do you ask?
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The ending of the era of Philosophical thought
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questfortruth
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A wiseman has reasons to know, what a god is false. The false atheist has no reasons to "kill" a god.Why, of course it would not. Why do you ask?
ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
How can you "kill" something that doesn't exist?
questfortruth
Well-Known Member
The God can be killed in the heart and in the mind. "Killed" = Removed from.
ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
And what if they were never IN your heart or mind?
And the true atheist has no reason to pretend to know of true gods...
questfortruth
Well-Known Member
I know mine God, see the proofs in the link:
questfortruth
Well-Known Member
They were. A child was born not as a false atheist. The false atheist has lost the quest for Truth. Because the God is Truth.
ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
False. Nobody is born with a belief in God - everyone is technically born an atheist. You cannot even demonstrate that God exists, so your assertion that "God is truth" is baseless. Try again.
I know my god as well. I made him and disposed of him when I saw fit. Several times.
Never once I believed in his existence.
I guess that is why I am an atheist.
questfortruth
Well-Known Member
Look at a mother. We are born with knowledge, what our mother exists. Right from the start, we had this knowledge. Before even we got to know the word "mom". Hereby the mom-knowledge is growing.
crowfeather
One
A human is born not knowing it is a human. Like a crow, it is what it is.
Humans teach the newborn what they think it is. The newborn thinks they must know what it is, and so accepts this.
Thus does the newborn become a human.
The seeker peels back the layers of what it is told it is, to rediscover what it actually is.
The successful seeker discards his human disguise, and becomes wise.
The wise man is not a man at all.
The wise being is only wise.
Humans teach the newborn what they think it is. The newborn thinks they must know what it is, and so accepts this.
Thus does the newborn become a human.
The seeker peels back the layers of what it is told it is, to rediscover what it actually is.
The successful seeker discards his human disguise, and becomes wise.
The wise man is not a man at all.
The wise being is only wise.
ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
Also false. We are not born (or, at least, conceived) with any knowledge. We know we have mothers because we are raised by mothers and we are also raised to understand how the process of reproduction works. What's more, that has absolutely nothing to do with God.
Strike two. Try again.
questfortruth
Well-Known Member
The growing knowledge is there. For example, we see Sun. We feel warm. But we have no word for it. Then, we got to know the word "Sun". Then, in school we got to know the Sun reactions, Sun mass, Sun spectrum.... Same is with God. Same is with parents.
That has nothing whatsover to do with belief in the existence of any gods. Not even as a metaphor.
questfortruth
Well-Known Member
Right from the start we feel, what something exists, that something is right and something is wrong, something is hot and something is cold. It is the first knowledge of the Highest Judge of what is true and what is false.
ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
But we are not born with it, which is the whole point. Also, we know the sun exists, and we know parents exist, but you have yet to demonstrate that a God exists. Your argument is entirely circular and makes no sense whatsoever.
Third strike. Try again.
ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
The notion that we are able to discern facts doesn't mean a God exists. That's something you have to demonstrate. Either demonstrate it, or stop asserting it.
**John Oliver voice**
Philosophy isn't the investigation of questions, the initial premise is wrong. Philosophy is the pursuit of truth. Questioning begins with a doubt. Truth does not.
"In the beginning" is a "once upon a time," a story-telling device.
Also, your misplaced comma devalues wisdom and knowledge.
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crowfeather
One
Descartes derailed the whole Western world with his inanity: "I think, therefore I am".
Either he was the biggest dope in human history, or the biggest dopes in human history completely misconstrued his words.
One exists before one thinks. By thinking, one becomes aware of oneself as separate from what one thinks about.
More accurately then:
"I think, therefore I am not".
"I am, until I think".
"I think, therefore I no longer am".
A human is screwed as soon as he starts to think. Only by backtracking, undoing all thought, can he once again exist.
And only then, if he is exceedingly skilled, and also exceedingly lucky.
Either he was the biggest dope in human history, or the biggest dopes in human history completely misconstrued his words.
One exists before one thinks. By thinking, one becomes aware of oneself as separate from what one thinks about.
More accurately then:
"I think, therefore I am not".
"I am, until I think".
"I think, therefore I no longer am".
A human is screwed as soon as he starts to think. Only by backtracking, undoing all thought, can he once again exist.
And only then, if he is exceedingly skilled, and also exceedingly lucky.