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What has creationism done for the world so far? :sleep:
Woolly Mammoth to Be Cloned : Discovery News
Woolly Mammoth to Be Cloned : Discovery News
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It is, isn't it?Seriously, that's awesome.
Just a few quibbles...What has creationism done for the world so far? :sleep:
Woolly Mammoth to Be Cloned : Discovery News
Sorry...Oh, pooh!
Just rain on the parade, whydoncha?
Unfortunately it would.Cloning a neanderthal would be supremely cruel.
wa:do
Just a few quibbles...
Japan has been promising mammoths are just a few years away for a decade.
We don't have a complete genome yet.
Having a genome and having a living mammoth are worlds apart.
Making a single mammoth does not bring them back from extinction, it makes them extinct twice.
Making a herd of clones is not only cost prohibitive but still does nothing to bring them back... you won't have the genetic diversity to sustain them.
The only surrogates would be elephants, who are endangered themselves. Not only that, they are highly intelligent, highly social and willing to kill infants rather than raise them in captivity. Once your mammoth is born the mother may reject or kill it. Assuming it doesn't die on it's own.
Without a proper social structure your mammoth is going to have social disorders.
Clones have very low survivorship... the mammoth will likely die before maturity... if it makes it full term.
Not that I wouldn't love to see a living mammoth... I would likely weep at the sight of it. But I don't want it to live a short pain/illness riddled life, just to suit my fancy. Making the mammoth go extinct twice would just be cruel.
Besides, there are plenty of species near extinction now, they need our immediate help.
wa:do
Just a few quibbles...
Japan has been promising mammoths are just a few years away for a decade.
We don't have a complete genome yet.
Having a genome and having a living mammoth are worlds apart.
Making a single mammoth does not bring them back from extinction, it makes them extinct twice.
Making a herd of clones is not only cost prohibitive but still does nothing to bring them back... you won't have the genetic diversity to sustain them.
The only surrogates would be elephants, who are endangered themselves. Not only that, they are highly intelligent, highly social and willing to kill infants rather than raise them in captivity. Once your mammoth is born the mother may reject or kill it. Assuming it doesn't die on it's own.
Without a proper social structure your mammoth is going to have social disorders.
Clones have very low survivorship... the mammoth will likely die before maturity... if it makes it full term.
Not that I wouldn't love to see a living mammoth... I would likely weep at the sight of it. But I don't want it to live a short pain/illness riddled life, just to suit my fancy. Making the mammoth go extinct twice would just be cruel.
Besides, there are plenty of species near extinction now, they need our immediate help.
wa:do
One conjecture is that they were useful for clearing snow off of frozen grasses to eat.painted wolf,
Can you explain to me the purpose of the mammoth's enormous tusks? Are they for fighting off predators or other males .... ? They just seem so unwieldy.
painted wolf,
Can you explain to me the purpose of the mammoth's enormous tusks? Are they for fighting off predators or other males .... ? They just seem so unwieldy.
Like elephants tusks are multi-use implements. We know they were used in fights between males due to the types of damage they sustained. And it's likely they provided a sexual selection advantage to their owners. Females have much smaller tusks.painted wolf,
Can you explain to me the purpose of the mammoth's enormous tusks? Are they for fighting off predators or other males .... ? They just seem so unwieldy.
They are tusks, not horns.awoon said:Could anyone imagine the feeling she would have birthing a Mammoth with those big horns?
They still haven't shown they actually have what they need to clone from. You can't use damaged DNA even if it's 80% intact... it's not enough.Japan didn't have the material that they have now.
yeah... we can try cloning modern endangered species. We have lots of frozen genetic material to work with. Also elephants (and mammoths) are terrible for this type of experiment due to the extraordinarily long gestation periods and the already existing problems with in vetro fertilization.While that may allow them to clone it, I think you are right that the clone may have some flaws that could only be worked out through successive generations of cloning.
Which is probably cruel.
Is there another way to clone an extinct species without some tests though?