Father Heathen
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Like Alex "Gay Frogs" Jones?
Look, I'll step back.
Without making this about me, my point is more that I see feminism as a positive for society. Its not (just) about doing what's right, it's also what I believe pragmatically is most healthy for all of us, men included.
Weirdly, my feminism is based on my egalitarian principles. Those same principles drove my response on your comment. Nothing more.
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
It's not superstitious to believe that evil exists.
Tinker Grey
Wanderer
Yes it is.
Evil doesn't exist. Things happen that we don't like. Sift every atom in the universe and you won't find one to label evil. No, not at the boson level either. It's simply a concept (a useful one) in the brain.
You give women leaders & voters no responsibility
for men being drafted, or for anti-abortion policies, eh.
I say it's time for liberal women & feminists to stand up,
& recognize that women exercise great power with
consequences they blame solely on men. If you want
to wallow in group politics, take some responsibility
for your own.
Why are women more opposed to abortion? | Martin Robbins
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
That's your opinion. The vast majority of the human race believes otherwise.
And you can't explain why the human race has a propensity to destroy themselves, by relegating everything to evolution and chance.
Why do evil thoughts come into your mind? Ever randomly think about killing someone, for no real reason?
How do you explain that, minus an evil influence in the world?
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
It seems like your trying to say women are more responsible for policies that are decided upon centuries of misogyny. Like the draft. That one isn't women but men who, for centuries, have thought women are only good for making and taking care of babies (and relied heavily on the Bible to enforce it).
It's a mistake to read "more" into it.
Straw?
Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
Your post suggests that you either have listened to him and suddenly bad things happened or that you listened to him, followed his ideas, and this led you to bad things. Option 1 is superstition.
Tinker Grey
Wanderer
Argumentum ad populum
Yes you can. In-group: friend; out-group: enemy.
We evolved as a social species. Therefore we cooperate with those around us. We compete for resources with those with whom we are not cooperating. Done,
Evil thoughts never come into my mind (or yours). Thoughts happen that if acted on would cause others (and perhaps oneself) to call the results bad.
Why? Thought experiments. The feedback loop of the mind. We process the world around us. We grow philosophically, morally, and intellectually by testing ideas whether the thinker realizes it or not.
ETA: That is to say, "evil" thoughts come from you.
Gee, how does one do anything unless someone is making you.
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Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
So nothing is inherently evil? I can hack up babies and you won't object because evil doesn't exist?
What a crock.
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
Both are correct. I really don't see any difference between the two either.
Tinker Grey
Wanderer
That's not what I said. Evil doesn't exist. We interpret acts as bad or evil. Evil itself is just a concept. Learn to read.
Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
Listening, then assuming bad things happening to you is due to listening is superstition. Listening, acting on what you listened to, then observing bad things happening because of the actions is different; there's an observation of cause and effect.
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
Both are the same if evil is real.
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
If it's just a concept then it doesn't exist in reality.
So nothing is evil. That's what you just said.
Why would I feel guilty for doing anything if that is the case?
I can rape, kill and pillage as long as it makes me feel good, because evil doesn't exist.
Tinker Grey
Wanderer
No you can't do those things because people don't like it. We declare those actions to be in the category of evil.
Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
The former would be the same as tossing salt over your shoulder.
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
Why should I care what people like? If everything's relative and good and evil are just random concepts, then all that matters is what I can take for myself.