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Featured Satanist leads prayer at city council meeting

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Father Heathen, Sep 27, 2022.

  1. Father Heathen

    Father Heathen Veteran Member

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    This was from a few years ago, so some of you may have seen this already, but what are your thoughts?
     
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    love it; very theatrical
     
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  3. Estro Felino

    Estro Felino Believer in free will
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    As a Christian, I will not watch the video.
    In my country there is no recognition or legal protection about such kind of religions, since they have never clarified what their purposes are, and whether their purposes are either directly or indirectly not conductive of the common good.
    That is, by constitution a religion must demonstrate it founds itself upon good customs, which means their pillars must be ethical and aimed at not harming anyone.
     
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    danieldemol Well-Known Member
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    Haven't seen it before, but if they(theocrats) are going to endeavour to infringe on government and/or indoctrinate our school children i welcome such a counter movement, even though I wouldn't see it as strictly necessary to the functioning of a healthy secular government which didnt have theocratic pressures acting on it.

    Just a shame they can't introduce this sort of thing to the government of Pakistan without the slaughter of innocents following.

    In my opinion.
     
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    danieldemol Well-Known Member
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    Singing about the need not to harm anyone is virtually a paraphrasing of 90 percent of the content of this man's invocation.

    Its a shame then that you choose to bury your head in the sand over it in the name of Christianity, but telling nonetheless.

    In my opinion.
     
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  6. Father Heathen

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    lol... :rolleyes:
    That's pretty wacky. But anyway, you don't even know what their tenets are.
     
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  7. Estro Felino

    Estro Felino Believer in free will
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    If nobody explains me what this religion is about in detail, I will always rely on what Satanism means according to Christianity. So it's not my fault if the followers of this religions either hide or won't reveal details.:)
     
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  8. Estro Felino

    Estro Felino Believer in free will
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    If they are positive tenets, then why do so many people hide themselves, and won't tell they profess that religion?
    I guess they do because they have the tail of straw (Italian expression).

    Otherwise they would do anything in daylight. ;)
     
  9. Father Heathen

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    Nobody is interested in your useless presumptions, especially when you're being deliberately obtuse.
     
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  10. Father Heathen

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    Some are probably not open about it because of ignorance and hostility from people like you?
     
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  11. Estro Felino

    Estro Felino Believer in free will
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    This is a debate.
    You asked what our thoughts are.
    My thoughts is that the US is a secular country founded upon Christian ethical pillars, since most Americans identify as Christians.
    And if it is a religion that revolves around the antagonism of Christian values, well...is like the perpetrator who claims to be the victim...I guess?
     
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  12. Estro Felino

    Estro Felino Believer in free will
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    Mine is not hostility. It is a stance based on juridical principles.
     
  13. Father Heathen

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    But you said you didn't even watch it, so of what use are your thoughts regarding it?
    As for the U.S., the first amendment of our constitution has an establishment clause which prohibits giving any religion preferential treatment.
     
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  14. Estro Felino

    Estro Felino Believer in free will
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    I understand. But it would be nice if you said your thoughts about it too.
     
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    You were too frightened to view it based on rather goofy preconceptions. There's nothing principled about that.
     
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    @Estro Felino is not ‘burying her head in the sand’! She simply has standards that she’s sticking to.
    (I applaud her for it.)
    What are your standards? Anything goes, eh?
     
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  17. Estro Felino

    Estro Felino Believer in free will
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    Thank you so much.
     
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    They are not hiding, they are publicly proclaiming their tenets in front of the city council.

    Though of course if you thrust your fingers into your ears you won't hear the details his invocation reveals.

    In my opinion.
     
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  19. Father Heathen

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    Did you watch the video? Where did you get "anything goes" from?
     
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    You’ve made a good point!
    I mean, doesn’t everyone know Satan is the Archenemy of the God of the Bible?
     
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