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"we"Depends upon who the "we" in the quote is supposed to apply to. For those who don't buy into that particular religion's dogma, it has no meaning or value whatsoever.
There is no compulsion in the truthful Religion, therefore:
such person could pray in these terms from such Being.
- "We" are the Muslim believers of Allah and
- Those we voluntarily want to benefit from Him whatever their Religion.
- Those we believe there is a Being, whatever His proper name, who has four attributes :
- Lord of all the worlds
- The Gracious,
- the Merciful,
- Master of the Day of Judgment.
G-d needs nothing, He is only the Giver.
*"Does Islam really preach peace, tolerance and non-violence?"No Compulsion???
A Call to the Muslims of the World | Center for Inquiry*
As I said, to those who do not believe your mythology and dogma, that passage has no meaning.
"Usually a direct word will be prefaced by the word "say." "
Quran is authored by G-d as per the criterion suggested by our Christian friend @Muffled . G-d tells Muhammad with the word "say" and or "قُلۡ" in Arabic original language, and Muhammad obeyed it:
[6:57]قُلۡ اِنِّیۡ نُہِیۡتُ اَنۡ اَعۡبُدَ الَّذِیۡنَ تَدۡعُوۡنَ مِنۡ دُوۡنِ اللّٰہِ ؕ قُلۡ لَّاۤ اَتَّبِعُ اَہۡوَآءَکُمۡ ۙ قَدۡ ضَلَلۡتُ اِذًا وَّ مَاۤ اَنَا مِنَ الۡمُہۡتَدِیۡنَ ﴿۵۷﴾
Say: ‘I am forbidden to worship those on whom you call beside Allah.’ Say: ‘I will not follow your evil inclinations. In that case, I shall become lost and I shall not be of the guided.’
The Holy Quran - Chapter: 6: Al-An`am
Is there any sentence in "Kitabe-i-Iqan" or "Book of Certitude"where G-d addressed Bahaullah with the word "say", please?
There cannot be any, I hold, as G-d never had any Converse directly with Bahaullah. Right, please?
Well, I can't think why you'd say that's where "most people" are -- since more than two-thirds of the word are NOT Christian.
"No, I have not read the entire Quran"
Please read/study the Quran, it is a systematic "Word of G-d" as is Nature a systematic "Wok of G-d", it is their system that convinces one beyond doubt that these are both authored by the same G-d.
Your convinced your God spoke to muhammed without any proof why can't bahai?
I have read Kitab-i-Iqan or The Book of Certitude, Bahaullah did not claim in it that G-d spoke to him directly and also gave no reason as such. Bahaullah quoted no Word of Revelation in it in which he had been commanded with the word "say".
Muhammad had been commanded by G-d in other styles also:
[29:46]اُتۡلُ مَاۤ اُوۡحِیَ اِلَیۡکَ مِنَ الۡکِتٰبِ وَ اَقِمِ الصَّلٰوۃَ ؕ اِنَّ الصَّلٰوۃَ تَنۡہٰی عَنِ الۡفَحۡشَآءِ وَ الۡمُنۡکَرِ ؕ وَ لَذِکۡرُ اللّٰہِ اَکۡبَرُ ؕ وَ اللّٰہُ یَعۡلَمُ مَا تَصۡنَعُوۡنَ ﴿۴۶﴾
Recite that which has been revealed to thee of the Book, and observe Prayer. Surely, Prayer restrains one from indecency and manifest evil, and remembrance of Allah indeed is the greatest virtue. And Allah knows what you do.
The Holy Quran - Chapter: 29: Al-`Ankabut