Ditto on that, but now I gotta run.
My mom just sent a message saying "ditto" too lol, interesting, but that was about two identical looking kittens laying on their backs with their arms and legs up.
I understand why you wouldn’t want some of the more adult content of the Bible presented to children.
That being said there comes a time of maturity when people are old enough to learn from the mistakes of history.
When people attain that age it is ok to present people as fictional role models, and provided it is presented as fiction or mythology that’s fine.
The problem comes when we teach people by example that it is ok to whitewash history and present it as factual.
The reasons it is problematic are as follows;
1. People who are unable to learn from the mistakes of history are doomed to repeat them.
2. It gives us an unrealistic view of human nature and development.
3. At its core it is dishonesty to whitewash history, and truthfulness is right up there with the most important human values such as compassion. In fact I would argue that truthfulness and compassion are the two most important values from which the others flow.
I would also like to add that there is no evidence that Islamic society is any better than secular society.
I think, maybe not based on any examples, but theoretically a society banning alcohol, vice, pre-marital sex, strict laws against crime and theft, bans on gambling, strict laws about accusation and treachery and lying, all those things, including strict laws about children and care of children and obligation to their care and the care of orphans should produce a better society. The Muslims barely follow the Qur'an, they follow other books, and Islamic society generally used to be the gold standard in the world and was the top in cleanliness, order, education, blah blah. Its because of thr emphasis in the Qur'an. They were also extremely wealthy. Crime is very low even today in some of the stricter Islamic or Islamic inspired countries, where otherwise I have to deal with drunks on the street, insane drunk driving, drugs openly being used and sold outside my door and crimes regarding drugs. I don't like strictness but its clear to me the lifestyle and mentality of the secular, Godless, un-wrathful God type world of libertarian free for all criminality and vice leads to a poopy experience for us straight laced straight edged goody two shoes.
Nothing in the Bible appears to be historically accurate. I think its finr if people read it as an old mythological book like any mythological book. Problem is the role models are cheating filth, they are scum, and so they teach people who are being told these are favored people to cheat, steal, kill, rape, and do every sort of evil and they will win. That is not historical. Marauders were not the champions of world history, nor were cheaters, but societies which emphasized civility and order and honesty, and they were against usury, tribalism, cheating, injustice.
Who were the winners? The big boys, Persia, Rome, and the Islamic Empires up to the Turks. Even Mongols had very strict civil laws and rules and were metropolitan rather than entirely tribal, they were able to rule huge territories due to their policies. Included in here are the Diadachoi of Alexander as well, particularly the Seleucid and Ptolemic Empires which were considered Macedonian or Greek inspired World Empires (Seleucid was the biggest in the world at the time).
These were the mighty and the just, and people inside their territories generally lived more prosperously than in their tiny tribal struggle lives.
The Jewish people were never an example of a decent civilization, I know that sounds bad to say but they were possibly starting out as Hibiru marauders and then continuing as marauding villains throughout the History presented in the Bible and the Qur'an, they were extremely tribal and anti-mixing, they were violent, and thought its perfectly fine to cheat apparently, since its in all the scriptures and the role models. Abraham tricked and slyly lied and cheated whereby he pimped out his wife and acquired his wealth, Jacob cheated and stole inheritences, David their great King was a manipulative cheater and murderer. I despise every one of the criminal trash mentioned in the Bible, and so if these become the role models of people and God is blessing and heightening these lowest of filthy characters, then it is promotion of disorder and evil conduct and no one who follows the Book can be trusted as anything but a criminal in their heart with their book of thievery and marauding. Same goes for the Mormons, there is a scene in there where they murder a guy who is sleeping to steal a book, on God's command.
The much more noble conduct depicted in the Qur'an is far better for brainwashing civil society. The animalistic criminal Muslims depicted on tv scarcely know or follow the Qur'an, they are just mad marauders like their predecessors and should all be put to death for their criminal marauding antics.
Secular society has a weakness, it respects people too much, it doesn't seem to acknowledge what kind of dumb animals human beings are and that they need a stricter society and supernatural and superstitious fears to keep them in order and weed out the nihilistic psychopaths for execution and eugenics (getting rid of their psychopathic bloodlines and gene tendencies).
God is a useful tool only if that God is a Supernatural Law and Order Executor, Monitor, and Policer. Judge Dread, Lord Wrath. A people who are both stupid and don't think anything can stop them are extremely dangerous, and laws like our laws today in secular society seem to barely be doing anything to keep people decent at all. The Judges and Police are not sufficient Gods and the criminals seem to be running wild. The more secular the other countries get, they get the same bloated garbage systems which feed the murderers and delay their execution and burning. When the law fails, vigilantism is the savior, but really all that happens is the more evil elements take over and lead to a rule of corruption and favoritism. Islamic laws and rules in the Qur'an as enforced and promoted by a monitoring and retributive God seem like a good idea to put terror into the hearts of dumb animal humans, taking away all the things they use to become uninhibited, taking away all their vices and gambling and things which cause contention. Pressuring upon them meditation sessions 5 times a day making criminality all the more difficult (if there are delayed enforcers waiting to see who can't control themselves and is doing wrong). Its terrible, but might be better, and its terrible because we are in Hell, and:
"L'enfer, c'est les autres" or "Hell is other people".
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The play begins with three characters who find themselves waiting in a mysterious room. It is a depiction of the
afterlife in which three deceased characters are punished by being locked into a room together for eternity. It is the source of Sartre's especially famous quotation "
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Three damned souls, Joseph Garcin, Inèz Serrano, and Estelle Rigault, are brought to the same room in Hell and locked inside by a mysterious valet. They had all expected torture devices to punish them for eternity, but instead, find a plain room furnished in
the style of the French 'Second Empire'. At first, none of them will admit the reason for their damnation: Garcin says that he was executed for being an outspoken
pacifist, while Estelle insists that a mistake has been made; Inèz, however, is the only one to demand that they all stop lying to themselves and confess to their moral crimes. She refuses to believe that they have all ended up in the room by accident and soon realizes that they have been placed together to make each other miserable. She deduces that they are to be one another's torturers.
Garcin suggests that they try to leave each other alone and to be silent, but Inèz starts to sing about execution and Estelle vainly wants to find a mirror to check on her appearance. Inèz tries to seduce Estelle by offering to be her "mirror" by telling her everything she sees but ends up frightening her instead. It is soon clear that Inèz is attracted to Estelle, Estelle is attracted to Garcin, and Garcin is not attracted to either of the two women.
After arguing, they decide to confess to their crimes so they know what to expect from each other. Garcin cheated on and mistreated his wife, and was executed by
firing squad for
desertion; Inèz is a manipulative sadist who seduced her cousin's wife, Florence, while living with them—which drove the cousin to kill himself, and resulted in Florence asphyxiating herself and Inèz by
flooding the room with gas while they slept, out of guilt—and Estelle had an affair and then killed the resulting child, prompting the child's father to commit suicide. Despite their revelations, they continue to get on each other's nerves. Garcin finally begins giving in to the lascivious Estelle's escalating attempts to seduce him, which drives Inèz crazy. Garcin is constantly interrupted by his own guilt, however, and begs Estelle to tell him he is not a coward for attempting to flee his country during wartime. While she complies, Inèz mockingly tells him that Estelle is just feigning attraction to him so that she can be with a man—any man.
This causes Garcin to abruptly attempt an escape. After his trying to open the door repeatedly, it inexplicably and suddenly opens, but he is unable to bring himself to leave, and the others remain as well. He says that he will not be saved until he can convince Inèz that he is not cowardly. She refuses, saying that he is obviously a coward, and promising to make him miserable forever. Garcin concludes that rather than torture devices or physical punishment, "hell is other people." Estelle tries to persevere in her seduction of Garcin, but he says that he cannot make love while Inèz is watching. Estelle, infuriated, picks up a paper knife and repeatedly stabs Inèz. Inèz chides Estelle, saying that they are all already dead, and even furiously stabs herself to prove that point. As Estelle begins to laugh hysterically at the idea of them being dead and trapped together forever, the others join in a prolonged fit of laughter before Garcin finally concludes, "
Eh bien, continuons..." ("Well then, let's get on with it..."). "