Shad
Veteran Member
Do not discount activist judges and DA. Trump is like a light for a moth when it comes to liberal judges.
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President's Power Play
- Thread starter esmith
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Do not discount activist judges and DA. Trump is like a light for a moth when it comes to liberal judges.
Shad
Veteran Member
Trump is exercising his power as POTUS. Congress can override his veto but Pelosi does not have the support to do so nor has she even tried. Who is blackmailing who here? The person with the legal power to veto or the person that can't bother even trying to override the veto?
Sure I could be wrong but I suspect when Liberals are in power, they'll have better things to do than waste more time on Trump.
Shad
Veteran Member
Yes. I think he is far more proud about standing his ground over his policy and the funding required than the shutdown itself. The shutdown is a consequence of standing his ground and a necessary one in his view.
It is a natural result of the system in which the minority party only has power in one branch of government and uses it to curb the policy of POTUS. The GOP did the same but via the Senate. It is also a natural result of creating large funding bills for an ever expanding executive branch instead of smaller specific bills for specific departments. Something Congress or POTUS could have changed years ago but didn't bother (both sides). It is a stalemate as no one wants to compromise that has real power in the matter. Both sides are playing on emotions as they lack arguments that will convince the other side to fold. The political divide within America has, again, come home to roost with the many of the same players repeating party taking points. The two party system is bring America to it's knees slowly.
Shad
Veteran Member
Keep in mind in court someone that is not necessarily a politician can file a claim against policy. Trump's travel EO (so-called Travel Ban or Muslim Travel ban) was challenged by a citizen, a state and a university in one case. So two of the plaintiffs were not in any sort of real government power. The citizen had a non-political claim while the university is more likely to be politically motivated but made a non-political claim. (Only the citizen's claim had merit in the SCOTUS ruling)
That is a serious understatement.
tytlyf
Not Religious
Correct. The Trump is responsible for the gov't shutdown. Americans agree on that.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
And he jeopardized the entire group when he announced when and where they were going. Some "patriotic American" he is.I guess the President can play the same games Nancy does.
Trump denies Pelosi aircraft for foreign trip in response to call for State of the Union delay
esmith
Veteran Member
They didn't go did they?And he jeopardized the entire group when he announced when and where they were going. Some "patriotic American" he is.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
But Melania did using a military plane for her vacation. Where's the Republican outrage on that? They certainly blew up over Obama's heading to Hawaii with family and his golf outings.
Oh wait, Trump and family have used far more governmental money and Trump has had far more golf outings than Obama, and if my memory is correct you harped on that during the latter's tenure in office. Cat got your tongue?
esmith
Veteran Member
But Melania did using a military plane for her vacation. Where's the Republican outrage on that? They certainly blew up over Obama's heading to Hawaii with family and his golf outings.
Oh wait, Trump and family have used far more governmental money and Trump has had far more golf outings than Obama, and if my memory is correct you harped on that during the latter's tenure in office. Cat got your tongue?
I'd expect the President & family to use government airplanes for security reasons.But Melania did using a military plane for her vacation. Where's the Republican outrage on that? They certainly blew up over Obama's heading to Hawaii with family and his golf outings.
Oh wait, Trump and family have used far more governmental money and Trump has had far more golf outings than Obama, and if my memory is correct you harped on that during the latter's tenure in office. Cat got your tongue?
Those in Congress shouldn't use military planes except in special circumstances
where security is a real concern. Pelosi does have a long history of abusing this
privilege.