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Poll says: majority approve of President Trump

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by Shaul, May 16, 2019.

  1. Riders

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    I read the reports its 45 percent are you saying that reports wrong? Can you win the presidency with 45 percent? It better be higher in 2020 for him to win.
     
  2. Evangelicalhumanist

    Evangelicalhumanist "Truth" isn't a thing...
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    I confess that I don't like it much (who cares, since I'm Canadian?), but I agree with you, that's how the system is constitutionally arranged, and it is therefore the only way at present to legally elect a President. If one doesn't like it, get out and demonstrate for electoral reform.

    Funny thing, in Canada's last election in 2015, the Liberal Party of Canada under Justin Trudeau swore that "this will be the last election using 'first past the post' method." I was enchanted, because in a country where 5 or more parties regularly run, it is entirely possible to have a majority government elected by remarkably few Canadians. That can be a bad thing, because a Canadian PM with a majority in Parliament basically has more executive and legislative clout than a US President.

    Think of it this way: if you have 4 parties running a candidate in every riding in Canada, and in each one, the same party wins by a margin of only 1 percentage or so (i.e. the winner got 25.1% of the vote, and all the others got 25% or slightly less), then that party would hold 100% of the seats in Parliament, having done so by winning just barely over a quarter of the population's support.

    It's never that bad, of course, but in the last election in Ontario, the Conservatives won 40.5% of the popular vote, resulting in a majority government with 71% of the seats in the Legislature. That's enough to let the Premier do as he likes, basically. In Canada's last general election, the LIberals under Trudeau won a comfortable 57% seat majority, while winning only 39.1% of the popular vote.

    I personally think we can do better, and I still long for electoral reform. But that's a big change for most folks to chew on, and as it frightens them, it's basically not very doable.
     
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    Revoltingest Greased up & ready for action!
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    I try to read your posts carefully.
    But it's like trying to use a wet rope to push an
    angry snake out from under a porch, what with
    your changes of subject whenever cornered.
    The whataboutism notwithstanding, the OP is
    correct....the poll shows a majority approve.
    (I don't, btw.)
     
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    Revoltingest Greased up & ready for action!
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    I think many pollsters do a good job.
    But those consuming the polls misread the results & the significance to us.
    They appear to only matter when my guy looks good, & their guy stinks.
     
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    Revoltingest Greased up & ready for action!
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    Revoltingest Greased up & ready for action!
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    You & I should take over both countries, & fix'm.
     
  7. Evangelicalhumanist

    Evangelicalhumanist "Truth" isn't a thing...
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    But then, we are both democrats (note the small "d"). "Taking over" would be an affront to my democratic soul. And I'm still not old enough to be a "benign dictator." I take my lessons from the Roman emperors...as long as I can still "get it up" occasionally, the world can't trust me to be in total command. Heck, I couldn't trust myself!

    :rolleyes::glomp:
     
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    Of course, we'd take over passively, at the hands of others.
    (No one who actually wants the job is qualified to do it.)
    The coup perpetrators would see our intelligence & magnanimity,
    & demand of us that we assume the position.


    OK....phrasing could be better.
     
  9. Quetzal

    Quetzal A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
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    Correct, this cannot be a unilateral power play. It needs to come from the majority first.
     
  10. Enoch07

    Enoch07 It's all a sick freaking joke.
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    fantome profane Have you read the Mueller Report?
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    Yes. He did in 2016.
     
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    Hillary's stats were also high, why didnt she get voted in if your right?
     
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    As much hate as gets spewed at Trump, an approval in the 40s seems pretty remarkable to me.
     
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    Unfortunately in America, the majority of people aren't very bright. Hence the universal term of American's as "fat and stupid." I live here, but I'm no dummy and will always point out the obvious.

    Only 1 party fights to keep it that way...propagandize the education system. Defund it. Why?
     
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    better pray it stays that way then it may keep going.
     
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    After 2016 one should take polls with a truck load of salt.
     
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    No it is history. Look up Lincoln.... One of the reasons for the Civil War was that the South saw Lincoln and the Republican platform as radical for it's anti-slavery stance. They took Lincoln off a number of ballots in the South so people couldn't vote for him. If he was pro-slavery why try rigging an election?
     
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