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Poll says: majority approve of President Trump

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by Shaul, May 16, 2019.

  1. Revoltingest

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    Actually, the Republican Party is the one which fought slavery.
    That is a very strange thing to say.
    I get a vague feeling that I should be miffed.
    But instead I'll try bemusement.
    Yes....that works.
     
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    Yeah like how North Korea is a Republic.
    But maybe you and Kanye took the same classes, where they're just really itching to pretend the same demographic that makes up the Republicans today were the abolitionists and not the slavers. Maybe they can get a speaking panel next to the 'civil war wasn't about slavery' clowns.

    But I digress.

    Yeah, right.
     
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    :eek: I would never!
     
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    In addition to correcting all those dictionaries about "majority",
    you'll need to correct a Wikipedia entry also....
    History of the United States Republican Party - Wikipedia
     
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    Correct, but it is worth pointing out that the parties have shifted dramatically since.
     
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    Those Democrat fanboys quoting history at me in order to
    paint the Electoral College as racist must endure their noses
    being rubbed in their own history. It's a teachable moment.

    Besides, the Democrats are hardly friends of black folk.
    Just today, I heard Biden defending the Three Strikes Law,
    which.....well, you know the effects of that one.
     
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    Nope, it's already correct. Republicans today have more in common with slavers than abolitionists, and its disingenuisly used by historical revisionists to try and paint the modern ideology as more tolerant than it is. Slavery was cemented by traditionalist, blue collar, small government democratic Republicans, and abolitionists, post Federalist party, became the Republican party that shares the name but not the ideology or demographic of modern Republicans.
    Trying to equate modern Republicans to Lincoln is like trying to equate North Korea to a republic.
     
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    The EC is most definitely racist, even in modern times due to redistricting and voter suppression. But so far all you're teaching is the sort of thing you might see in a classroom where 'evolution is only a theory' is stamped on the science books.
     
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    Dang....that's right up there with claims that Trump is Hitler.
    I've proven you wrong twice today.
    When are you going to just give up, & admit that you should
    trust me more than your own opinion? I'm here to serve.
     
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    Smack em with a rolled up newspaper!
     
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    This might mean that Democrats are racist, because they
    don't want to ditch it except when it works against them.

    This is all great fun, arguing who is more racist...Dems or Pubs.
    Both have their historical & current purveyors of bigotry.'
    But it's a sideshow which only arises when Democrats seek to
    embiggen themselves by finding fault with others, instead of
    actually practicing what they say they believe.
     
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    That's a huge load of bull. Nobody is buying into that farce anymore that Republicans were the southern Democrats.

    Want to know how many Southern Democrats in the day went over to the Republican Party?

    Bout 3 of them.

    Also check out Jim Crow long after this supposed 'switch' occurred and see who voted for and against Jim Crow laws.

    People need to stop lying about this.
     
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    Hitler was more competent and ambitious. Trump is only a wannabe despot. Still a pimple on the *** of mankind but thankfully not likely to go genocidal. Fascist, yes genocidal, no.
    You're free to write your alternative fanfic however you like. If you publish to Wattpad send me a link.
     
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    Sigh....yes, we live under fascism.
    I guess that next, Trump will cancel the 2020 elections.

    I begin to wonder.....
    Is there any liberal who ever consults dictionaries or Wikipedia?
     
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    If you believe this... what a crock.
     
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    It hasn't done anything but. The only times in living memory a president won through the EC is Republicans. But yeah, more Democrats want to get rid of it than Republicans for just that reason.
     
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    And there's the reason Democrats oppose it, ie, no benefit to them.
    For them to pretend racism is the reason is despicable.
     
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    Do try harder with the reading comprehension. That isn't what I said. I said facism from Trump would be more believable than a Hitlerian genocide. He admires fascists, has praised their rules, uses their lingo and makes fascist 'jokes' that aren't really, keeps their literature, makes excuses for their abuse and so on and so on.

    But of course there are those who would take any excuse for him. He's said as much
     
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    Doesn't say much for pollsters and folks who quote 'em, does it? Oh well, ... the matter set me to wondering, so I went looking for info and found this: FAQs | NCPP - National Council on Public Polls from
    • The National Council on Public Polls (NCPP) website. "The National Council on Public Polls (NCPP) is an association of polling organizations established in 1969. Its mission is to set the highest professional standards for public opinion pollsters, and to advance the understanding, among politicians, the media and general public, of how polls are conducted and how to interpret poll results."
    Kind of funny that a bunch of folks who engage in an activity (i.e. public opinion polling), that has "questionable accuracy" and "even less meaning," are interested in "the highest professional standards".

    At the NCPP site I find:
    • 5. Why is job approval for elected officials asked so often in polls?
      • Job approval is a question asked in polls for over 50 years, asked about presidents from Harry Truman to Bill Clinton. It is a measure of potential electoral success for an incumbent president (or state and local elected officials) and is useful for trend purposes. Incumbents who fail to win approval from a majority of the public for the job they are doing are very often in trouble on election day.
    • 6. How accurate are polls?
      • The NCPP analyzed final presidential election polls conducted by the national media dating back over 50 years. When compared with actual election outcomes, average poll error for presidential elections between 1956 and 1996 has been declining. Average poll error on each candidate during this period was 1.9 percentage points.
      • Important to this analysis of accuracy is that most of these polls were conducted within days or even hours before election day. Polls conducted 1-2 weeks before election day or even longer by local newspapers and TV stations cannot usually be expected to closely match election outcomes. Earlier polls are intended to monitor the success of campaigns and to identify the issues or events which will influence voter preferences on
        election day.
    IMO, the following article article provides some interesting info pertaining to the history of polling in the U.S. and John Zogby, The Pollster
     
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    Lol wow what a goalpost move. "Democrats keep EC around because it benefits them, that's why they don't care about the racism!"
    "EC doesnt benefit Democrats."
    "Democrats want the EC gone because it doesn't benefit them! They don't care about racism!"
    Whatever dude. I've had enough of your bad takes for one day.
     
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