Oral Sex

[Secret Chief]

Advertising is directed, very selective, closely follows your trends and interests (unless like me you have location turned off*) indicated by searches and sites visited. So it seems to me that the reason you are getting so much of what you consider "straight up porn" is because you have searched for same or visited sites with that sort of content?

Yes, but if that is turned off how would anyone know about all the beautiful young Russian girls who are looking for good times? (Asking for a friend).

 

[ChristineM]

Yes, but if that is turned off how would anyone know about all the beautiful young Russian girls who are looking for good times? (Asking for a friend).

I am not really interested in beautiful russian girls or viagra or proprietary in costa plenty. Nor is hubby, (would take some explanation)

But if it were beautiful russian men...

 

[Piculet]

I think you either need a good ad-blocker, not sign in to so much, or have e-mail addresses that aren't picked up. I never get any such (not even any spam). If I want porn I know where to find it though. Being followed about the internet is more a commercial enterprise concern for most of us but we can get rid of such if we really wanted to.

I don't get anything to my email, just apps and YouTube (and some random sites.) I am signed into YouTube, but I don't know what difference that could make. I'm sure nothing on my cookies suggests I'm looking for a dating app.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Yet it's exactly why young people are engaging so frequently in oral sex and why they don't consider it 'having sex'.

Again, it's a different issue. For those involved in it, it will influence much more then just their view on oral sex.

Back when I grew up there was no internet and the only access to porn was that "not under 21" nasty dark room at the back of the video-store.
Nevertheless among us youngsters, it was certainly widely and commonly understood that oral sex is a pretty standard part of foreplay, and that it doesn't count as "having done 'it' ..."

 

[Secret Chief]

I am not really interested in beautiful russian girls or viagra or proprietary in costa plenty. Nor is hubby, (would take some explanation)

The router must have got hacked. Works for me.

 

[ChristineM]

I had been married for 10 years before i realised oral sex was more than just talking about it ;-)

 

[PureX]

I assume this is sarcasm, but slightly related — porn is not just easily accessible, it is pretty much forced into one's view. For instance, I have seen ads on YouTube that are supposedly for "dating apps" , but the ad is straight up porn. Multiple random apps I have had have also shown ads for "dating apps" so you get pop ups of porn. It's disgusting. If the ad isn't porn, it's frequently gambling instead..

Porn is degrading and dehumanizing because it's all about the money, and if we don't teach our kids any differently, this is what they see as "sex".

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

I don't get anything to my email, just apps and YouTube (and some random sites.) I am signed into YouTube, but I don't know what difference that could make. I'm sure nothing on my cookies suggests I'm looking for a dating app.

You'd be surprised.

It could be because of your associates (friends from your mosque, maybe?). If Google or whatnot sees that you interact with 10 people who are all into something, its algorithms will guess that you're probably into that thing, too.

There's an old joke about Baptists, but maybe it applies to some Muslims, too:

- What's the difference between a Jew, a Muslim, and a Baptist?

- Jews don't recognize Mohammed and a prophet, Muslims don't recognize Jesus as the Son of God, and Baptists don't recognize each other in the liquor store.

 

[PureX]

Does that justify say child rapist if someone plays that role?

Though people disagree with child rape they still watch movies because they are entertained. They feel the vengeance, pain, etc of actors and many watch more movies because of it.

You're never watched murder movies specifically to murder and not for survival?

To tell you honestly, I'd rather watch porn than murder of our society wasn't obsessed with deary, sacrifice, killing, and such. It still causes the same entertainment, psychological reactions, etc. Just the latter (depending on the porn you watch) doesn't show people getting hurt or morally doing anything illegal.

But we show child rapist movies and block out women's breasts. It's more of a moral issue. Take a way individual morals, both are fake.

Normalizing, rationalizing, justifying and glorifying violence or sexual use abuse and exploitation for profit is detrimental to both individuals and societies. If you don't see this I think you've already been damaged by it.

 

[Piculet]

You'd be surprised.

It could be because of your associates (friends from your mosque, maybe?). If Google or whatnot sees that you interact with 10 people who are all into something, its algorithms will guess that you're probably into that thing, too.

There's an old joke about Baptists, but maybe it applies to some Muslims, too:

- What's the difference between a Jew, a Muslim, and a Baptist?

- Jews don't recognize Mohammed and a prophet, Muslims don't recognize Jesus as the Son of God, and Baptists don't recognize each other in the liquor store.

I have not known that such could affect ads and I'm not entirely convinced either, but I still think that can't be it either. I think the apps play ads that they play to everyone and on YouTube I've turned everything possible off from settings. It certainly isn't showing me any relevant ads. The only thing I can imagine affecting them is location. My question remains, why is there so much of inappropriate ads around. On this site, too — am I the only one who gets gambling ads much of the time?

 

[Piculet]

it was certainly widely and commonly understood that oral sex is a pretty standard part of foreplay, and that it doesn't count as "having done 'it' ..."

Well education has become better since then. I understand they're very clear about it in school, what is sex. At least in the west.

 

[ecco]

We all also understand (or should) that being used, sexually, by others, is not a necessary part of that existential requirement.

You are under the mistaken impression that everyone who makes money from porn or prostitution is being exploited. You refuse to be able to admit that some people enjoy sex and don't mind getting paid to do it. You refuse to be able to admit that some people enjoy sex and want other people to see them enjoying it.

Have you ever seen videos taken on some nude beaches where people have public sex? These people know they are being watched and being filmed. They are not going to get paid what they do.

 

[ecco]

Most who describe themselves as Muslims or Christians are not so ignorant, conceited and stupid that they would consider themselves to be "true" muslims/christians.

HAH! You've been here for a month and you really believe that?

I actually don't draw such conclusion from here.

Well, that just makes it even worse. Just read through this thread. I have never seen any religious person admit they are not a "true (fill in the blank)".

I consider myself a true atheist.

Don't you consider yourself a 'true' Muslim?

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

I have not known that such could affect ads and I'm not entirely convinced either, but I still think that can't be it either.

It's why I get ads for beekeeping equipment: even though I don't keep bees myself, I know a few people who do.

 

[ecco]

'The Bahá'í Faith recognizes the value of the sex impulse, but condemns its illegitimate and improper expressions such as free love, companionate marriage and others, all of which it considers positively harmful to man and to the society in which he lives.

Why? What harm to society? If two 25 year-olds want to have sex, how is that harming society? If three 25 year-olds want to have sex, how is that harming society?

The Bahá'ís do not believe in the suppression of the sex impulse but in its regulation and control.'

What does that mean? How do you suppress the sex impulse?

 

[ecco]

Trying to control behavior does not work. Not here. Kids will rebel.

Not anywhere. Not anywhen.

And it's not just kids who rebel at suppression, it's all right-minded people.

 

[ecco]

As far as teens thinking it is not having sex, I think we can thank Bill Clinton for that. Sigh*

Clinton's indiscretion, and his defense, came to light in 1998.

Silver Ring Thing (SRT), is an American virginity pledge program founded in 1995 by Denny Pattyn. The program encourages teens and young adults to remain sexually abstinent until marriage.
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Guys were trying to convince girls to have oral sex long before Clinton.

 

[ecco]

For instance, I have seen ads on YouTube that are supposedly for "dating apps" , but the ad is straight up porn. Multiple random apps I have had have also shown ads for "dating apps" so you get pop ups of porn. It's disgusting. If the ad isn't porn, it's frequently gambling instead..

You get ads for things you have shown an interest in.

I have never gone to a dating site, so I don't get ads for dating sites.

Does that clarify why you are getting ads for dating sites and porn?


ETA:

On this site, too — am I the only one who gets gambling ads much of the time?

I have never gone to gambling sites, I never get ads for gambling.

Are you starting to understand why you get ads for dating and porn and gambling? We understand why you get ads for dating and porn and gambling.

 

[Mock Turtle]

I don't get anything to my email, just apps and YouTube (and some random sites.) I am signed into YouTube, but I don't know what difference that could make. I'm sure nothing on my cookies suggests I'm looking for a dating app.

It would probably be due to signing in to anything, and also not clearing cookies when exiting browser, but clearing cookies (which I always do) does mean that no settings are saved for that particular site, although one can do such (just save for the sites one uses the most). But they can also track without cookies to some extent. I just hate adverts so do all I can to avoid any, and even abandon any sites that insist on delivering such to me. I think (not sure) that the cookies get shared with other sites.

 

[Trailblazer]

Why? What harm to society? If two 25 year-olds want to have sex, how is that harming society? If three 25 year-olds want to have sex, how is that harming society?

Anything that harms individuals harms society because individuals are part of society.
I guess you'd have to be a religious person in order to understand how it harms individuals.

What does that mean? How do you suppress the sex impulse?

You exercise self control instead of doing only what you want to do.