NYC’s anti-Semitic spree

[Jayhawker Soule]

Could be black Russians trying to cause division and discord.

Could be disguised Martians ...

Or, here's a thought, it could be dome really sick guy driven, in part, by the very antisemitism that some on this thread are working do hard to deny.

 

[Stanyon]

Could be disguised Martians ...
Or, here's a thought, it could be some really sick guy driven, in part, by the very antisemitism that some on this thread are working do hard to deny.

Friction between black and Jewish residents, especially in lower income areas has been brewing for decades, it's nothing new. It seems in a number of cases it was felt that Jewish landlords and shop owners price gouged or failed to do proper upkeep on properties and in more than a few cases they seem to be correct. The roots of black anti-Semitism may very well have it's roots in unfair trade practices, economic inequality, and a sense of entitlement than in some imagined intolerance to religious practices.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Friction between black and Jewish residents, especially in lower income areas has been brewing for decades, it's nothing new. It seems in a number of cases it was felt that Jewish landlords and shop owners price gouged or failed to do proper upkeep on properties and in more than a few cases they seem to be correct. The roots of black anti-Semitism may very well have it's roots in unfair trade practices, economic inequality, and a sense of entitlement than in some imagined intolerance to religious practices.

Yes. Therefore?

 

[Wandering Monk]

The answer to your initial question is pretty straightforward:
a "Jew" is someone who has the lineage or the Jewish-determined legal status of being a Jew (I worded that very carefully)

The problem is that the concept and term "Jew" is used interchangeably with "Israeli" and that is irrational.

A person who has the legal status of being a J

Friction between black and Jewish residents, especially in lower income areas has been brewing for decades, it's nothing new. It seems in a number of cases it was felt that Jewish landlords and shop owners price gouged or failed to do proper upkeep on properties and in more than a few cases they seem to be correct. The roots of black anti-Semitism may very well have it's roots in unfair trade practices, economic inequality, and a sense of entitlement than in some imagined intolerance to religious practices.

During the 60's there were riots by blacks in the Jewish neighborhood in North Minneapolis. Most of the Jews left there over the next couple of decades.

 

[Stanyon]

During the 60's there were riots by blacks in the Jewish neighborhood in North Minneapolis. Most of the Jews left there over the next couple of decades.

I didn't hear about that one, will do some research.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

May the victims of this vicious attack, their families, and their community heal.

 

[Shad]

There is no "justification" for these acts of violence. But there is probably a motive of some sort. And the Israeli government has been behaving literally like nazi storm-troopers against the Palestinians, lately, and our own government and news media is staying determinedly silent about it. I have to wonder if this is fueling some of this anti-Jewish rage. Or perhaps some new conspiracy theories.

There have been issues between many in the Black community and Jews for decades. Often it has nothing to do with a nation-state at all but local issues made worse by race-baiters like Sharpton

 

[Wandering Monk]

I didn't hear about that one, will do some research.

Civil Unrest on Plymouth Avenue, Minneapolis, 1967 | MNopedia

 

[whirlingmerc]

Today was attack # 10 against Jews during Hanukkah. All these attacks have been in Brooklyn. Today five people were stabbed at a Hanukkah party.

I’ve always thought of the US as a safe place for Jews to be. I don’t know about that anymore.

It's very sad. May God comfort all the families and friends
of those affected by this terrible tragedy.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

I think this is all a bit of a stretch. One incident is connected, but we don't know how much. The rest is just speculation on your part. Can you see why I might be skeptical that this is the answer to the question of impetuous?

No, I honestly don't. Farrakhan has an enormous following. What he says is discussed. It only stands to reason that there are going to be those susceptible to his message, some consciously, others unconsciously.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

What groups? It was one guy so far and apparently he had been arrested before for punching a police horse in the face if that gives you any indication.

This isn't just one guy. There was a long string of hate crimes against Jews. the Black Hebrew Israelites are a group, as are the Black Muslims. But my guess is that most of the perpetrators are simply regular individuals that have been vaguely influenced by these doctrines without having formally joining any particular group.

 

[PureX]

Imagine a group of Brits moving to Canada and creating their own legal system not based on the British legal system. They call themselves Brits by heritage, but they aren't actually practicing British law. They're not even really trying to pass themselves or their country as one that practices British Law. They are a group of people who created a new country and as a side note, they happen to have British heritage and perhaps have some British artifacts in the system recalling that heritage. That's pretty much what the State of Israel is.

... And that they have been deemed by God to own the rest of Canada, so they are conquering it by force of violence one mile at a time.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

However, the main thing, in large font, really strikes a chord with me. In today's society 'free speech" is OFTEN considered 'hate speech' by those who choose to be offended, and I have a real problem with that.

Can you give an example of this, and the consequences of it?

I also whole heartedly agree with the 'strong families' sign. There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with it, except who, evidently, is saying it.

When white supremacists calls for "strong families", what exactly is it that you think they mean by "strong"?

I mean, really....is the sign wrong? Are strong families a bad thing?

You're kind of perfectly demonstrating how and why propaganda is effective, which was kind of Sigurd's whole point. The initial messages are general, vague and seem positive. But they are espoused by literal, actual white supremacists, and when you peel away that veneer you realize that what they're actually saying isn't "strong families". It's "white families". They aren't championing "free speech". They're championing "hate speech (and censoring non-white voices)". They aren't "anti-socialist". They're "anti-anything that potentially gives non-white people in society any power".

Marching under the banners of "free speech, anti-socialism and strong families" acts as a kind of cloak for their ideologies. It's what lead to the Unite the Right rally, which saw many moderate-right wingers and Conservatives marching alongside white supremacists and neo-Nazis, chanting Nazi slogans and cheering calls for a race war. Many of them "totally weren't white supremacists" either, and yet they platformed, enabled and tacitly approved white supremacist ideology.

 

[Samantha Rinne]

It seems Christians aren't spared either

2016 Normandy church attack - Wikipedia

Let's start calling this what it is. An attack on religion by the secular world. They hate Western culture (bottom line of why they often immigrate Muslims instead of say... Buddhists, both would prefer the Western world to be enslaved and all religious ppl killed) and would prefer any religion that produced science and architecture to go the way of the dodo.

Oh sure, the secular world pretends to support science, but most of these experiments? Protecting the political orthodoxy of climate change. Making it taboo for a scientist to be openly religious, often stripping funding or credentials. Researching whether LGBT behaviors are inherited when logically unless you reproduce, you can't pass on a condition (ergo it can only be a choice). Spending money on completely worthless studies.

When science was the domain of religion (1500-1980s or so) we went from stone buildings to legit making CDs and computers in four centuries. We were sure that by the point of Back to the Future, people would have expandable pizzas and flying cars and hovercrafts. Today? People are convinced the Earth will freeze/burn up despite Al Gore being wrong several years in a row, and there was a legit challenge to eat Tide Pods. Take religion out of science, and you lose the moral drive to help people.

TPAM, I marked your post as Creative. As in, what an imagination you've got here. What are the odds of this being about white supremacy? Practically zero, because most Christians that aren't Baptist or Methodist are white and rich and educated somewhere that isn't a fake liberal arts school. In other words, if anything without even knowing who attacked these Christians and Jews, I would conclude it more likely an attack on class than an attempt to impose some kind of white racial paradise (hint: Jews are also white, despite what Hitler would think). Also, as someone above said, the attacker was black with a machete apparently.

 

[Samantha Rinne]

Quite a few of these recent attacks have been committed by African Americans.

More importantly, they are probably not African Americans. That term gets thrown about because ppl are afraid "black" is offensive (despite being okay on government forms for decades), but frankly it is only accurate for those born in the US. If you are not born in the US, you are a native African or African immigrant. This matters because with many of these big cities promoting immigration (legal or not), many of these native Africans don't share the mentality of African Americans. This works too ways, as some are harder working and less welfare dependent than African Americans, while others come from violent countries.

 

[Tumah]

... And that they have been deemed by God to own the rest of Canada, so they are conquering it by force of violence one mile at a time.

You just can't help yourself, I see.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Let's start calling this what it is. An attack on religion by the secular world.

*Blinks*

*Clicks link*

*Reads*

"On 26 July 2016, two Islamist terrorists attacked participants in a Mass at a Catholic church in Saint-Étienne-du-Rouvray, Normandy, northern France. Wielding knives and wearing fake explosive belts, the men took six people captive and later killed one of them, 85-year-old priest Jacques Hamel, by slitting his throat, and also critically wounded an 86-year-old man.[1][2][3] The terrorists were shot dead by BRI police as they tried to leave the church."
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*Blinks again*

*Reads again*

"On 26 July 2016, two Islamist terrorists attacked participants in a Mass at a Catholic church in Saint-Étienne-du-Rouvray, Normandy, northern France..."

"On 26 July 2016, two Islamist terrorists attacked.."

"... two Islamist terrorists..."

"... Islamist terrorists..."

"... Islamist terrorists..."​

They hate Western culture (bottom line of why they often immigrate Muslims instead of say... Buddhists, both would prefer the Western world to be enslaved and all religious ppl killed)

Because we are all well aware of western secularism's hard "Buddhist immigrant ban".

The rest of your post just reads like conspiratorial garbage.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

... And that they have been deemed by God to own the rest of Canada, so they are conquering it by force of violence one mile at a time.

The was a vicious anti-Semitic attack and you rush in to blame the victim. Such behavior is cruel, insensitive, and complicit in nourishing the rising tide of hate crimes against Jews.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

The was a vicious anti-Semitic attack and you rush in to blame the victim. Such behavior is cruel, insensitive, and complicit in nourishing the rising tide of hate crimes against Jews.

I think he's had enough rope to hang himself.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

I think he's had enough rope to hang himself.

At the very least, this thread could serve as a model for the insidious rot of antisemitism and it's denial.