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Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by questfortruth, Oct 18, 2021.

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  1. TagliatelliMonster

    TagliatelliMonster Veteran Member

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    So, you have no links then? :rolleyes:

    Yes. Which is not at all the same as saying that this lack of evidence "proves that god does not exist", which is what you pretended we say. We don't. I'm sorry if you feel this compelled to double down on your strawman. I can only inform you of your error. Upto you what you do with it.

    False.
    There's plenty of things that likely exist for which we have no evidence of.
    The point is that you can't rationally justify believing those things exist (regardless of whether or not they actually exist) without such evidence.

    It's not my fault that theists insist on believing unfalsifiable entities that can't be distinguished from entities that don't exist.

    Having said that, I place no such limitations on evidence.
    I'll listen to whatever evidence someone comes up with and evaluate in with intellectual integrity and honesty.

    I make no such claim either.

    It's one strawman after the other with you.
     
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  2. ChristineM

    ChristineM "Be strong" I whispered to my coffee.
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    Sheesh, so you cannot provide falsifiable evidence of your belief... because thats what you got, a belief

    Nuf said...
     
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  3. Stevicus

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    Well, of course, there have been various schisms and sectarian disagreements. There was certainly a lot of consternation and dissension when the government declared that the motor spirit must be unleaded, causing a snit among the old believers who believed in the leaded motor spirit.
     
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  4. Guitar's Cry

    Guitar's Cry Verisimilitudinous

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    But, arguably, it makes sense that you have at least considered the possibility and came to a decision. Critical thinking need not be based upon a strict analysis, just thinking and considering things.

    That post was really to generate discussion, though, so I admit it isn't a complete assertion. :)
     
  5. ChristineM

    ChristineM "Be strong" I whispered to my coffee.
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    And the lifting of the walking speed speed limit with a lacky carrying a red flag before the motor was a real point of concern for the more conservative drivers
     
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  6. mikkel_the_dane

    mikkel_the_dane Shadow Wolf's Aspie sibling

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    Yes, I came to the decision that I don't need to know what the ontological/metaphysical status of objective reality is.
    As for being an atheist I accept religion as such. I don't consider it a positive or negative, but rather in part one way to cope with being a human. And since I am skeptic I don't believe in any version of objectively right or wrong, so I can't tell how you should live your live as you.
     
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  7. Stevicus

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    The believers in the Great Motor Spirit resist the idea of speed limits, considering that to be outside of the jurisdiction of humanity. The song "I can't drive 55" is a favorite hymn among many believers, appealing to the sentiments of many drivers who feel a "higher calling" when they get behind the wheel and start zooming down the road.

    When you think about it, speed limits are actually a flagrant violation of the Freedom of Religion.
     
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  8. viole

    viole Ontological Naturalist
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    For sure I will not buy some divine explanation made up by people who know as little as me.

    Ciao

    - viole
     
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    TagliatelliMonster Veteran Member

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    That is not even close that what was said.

    Are you capable of reading a statement and NOT walking away with a strawman version of said statement?
     
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  10. Evangelicalhumanist

    Evangelicalhumanist "Truth" isn't a thing...
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    That's because that's not what we say. You have carefully constructed your own silly strawman. I'll leave it to you to cut it down.
     
  11. Terrywoodenpic

    Terrywoodenpic Oldest Heretic

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    Atheism defines people do not believe in Theism.
    nothing more and nothing less.
    That might be a problem for a confirmed Theist, but not for the Atheist.
    Few if any have reason to describe them selves as either for or against such beliefs. it is a non issue.
     
  12. mikkel_the_dane

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    No, that is one version of atheism. Here is another:
    Our Vision

    We, as atheists, can't agree on the proper, correct definition of atheism.
     
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    But that's really all that we have to go by, the physicality. Beyond that, we can speculate and guess, but anyone's guess is as good as anyone else's.

    If we don't know something, then we don't know. If someone claims to know something, then people will want to know how do they know, at which point they'll be expected to present evidence demonstrating how they know. It's not an unreasonable or irrational expectation.

    I honestly don't know the origins of the universe or how we, as humans, came to be here on this Earth. I don't see that there's anything wrong with admitting this, if it's the truth. I'm not against the idea of there being some sort of "Creator" or "Designer," but I'm not going to make any assumptions based on speculation or other people's runaway imaginations.
     
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  14. Terrywoodenpic

    Terrywoodenpic Oldest Heretic

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    I do not accept that Atheists are a group at all, and certainly not one with common interests and goals.
    I would suggest that most people who do not have a religion or believe in god, are in fact Agnostic and have not found anything that is in any way convincing to them.

    Some people might be hostile to and disbelieving to one religion, and be agnostic to all others.
    It is certainly possible to totally disbelieve one religion. while having no opinion about another.
    Totally disbelieving all religion and supernatural beliefs might be comparatively rare.
     
  15. mikkel_the_dane

    mikkel_the_dane Shadow Wolf's Aspie sibling

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    I am not the standard for what atheism is to other humans. And I doubt you are.
     
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    What is the mystery of UFO? Let's talk about that. I'll get popcorn.

     
  17. Mock Turtle

    Mock Turtle Silent Generation - so don't expect much
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    To get in the spirit of the thread - All atheists have monkey cousins (even if distantly related), but then so do all humans. As below, where the larger ape (perhaps being religious) is telling the monkey - You are not MY cousin! :oops:

    Monkeyana.JPG
     
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  18. mikkel_the_dane

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    Well, it is not an atheistic belief for at least one version of atheism that all atheists have monkey cousins (even if distantly related), but then so do all humans. That is another kind of claim and a positive one as such.
     
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    Mock Turtle Silent Generation - so don't expect much
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    Don't know about that but a poll of atheists here on RF would probably find most believing in the accepted view of evolution - give or take some further explanations that might come to light in the future - and where we do seem to be related to other such species.
     
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    I can't speak for other atheists, but:

    - I believe in utilitarianism. I can't prove it, but I believe it.
    - I believe in science.

    One of the things that motivation science teaches us is that the old "carrot and stick" form of motivation is weak, crude, and ineffective. Much stronger is action motivated by "intrinsic motivation". For example, most people would believe in the golden rule even without religion, because it's intrinsically motivating to follow.
     
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