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How do you draw the line?War crimes and such are of course a different matter.
How do you draw the line?
depends on the situation, the freedom of the individual, and their intents and purposes.Those that go to war for their country and kill others.
Is that OK in the eyes of your religion?
Can they be forgiven? Is it an automatic pass because it is war? Etc.
That depends greatly on who is waging war and why.Those that go to war for their country and kill others.
Is that OK in the eyes of your religion?
others include civilians ?Those that go to war for their country and kill others.
Is that OK in the eyes of your religion?
Can they be forgiven? Is it an automatic pass because it is war? Etc.
As per my scriptural (and common sense) understanding, yes. I'm Hindu, BTW.Those that go to war for their country and kill others.
Is that OK in the eyes of your religion?
The problem with this is the way you have positioned it, Rex.Can they be forgiven? Is it an automatic pass because it is war? Etc.
I lean towards a pacifist type Christianity tho claim no denomination.
Would I kill in self defense or the defense of a loved one or another?
Yes. I'm well trained, have the skills, abilties, and weapons.
I would avoid deadly force if at all possible.
I believe the Christian N.T. makes provision for taking a life in self defense.
Those that would not defend loved ones, self, or another innocent I catagorize those types as "sheeple". Those people with the means to defend but would rather watch a child die though they could have stopped it.
A story: A man took a fascination with a 15 year old high school cheerleader.
A lovely child with a very adult womans body. She told her parents that this "man" had been in a car following her home from cheerleading practice. She was ignored.
She complained several times to her parents who blew it off.
One night around 2 am the "man" broke down the front door of her home, waking all up from sleep. The man finds the girl cowering in her bedroom. Dad avails himself of a handgun as the man drags the near naked girl down the stairs, the mother protesting with violence, hitting the man many times. The dad orders the man to stop or be shot. (really? he talks to the guy?) Mom gets her body beaten badly trying to free the daughter from the madman. Dad is still threatening to shoot.
The comotion was so loud and violent nieghbors call the cops.
6 cops responed, found the cheerleader being dragged into a running car while daddy dear is still pointing his pistol at the guy, crying, begging, to let the girl go.
Mom is still beating the madman and getting beaten badly. Cops size the situation up real quick and it took all 6 big, young coppers to beat the madman into pudding.
The daughter was released, mom and daughter treated for injuries, madman charged with agg. burglary, kidnapping, assult, etc. Madman looked like he'd been in a fight with an 18 wheeler and lost. Went to prison, was high on wine, "tee's 'n blues" a combination of alcohol and narcotic drugs.
Dad was uninjured and apparently would have let the madman get away with his only child.
Sheeple.
Those that go to war for their country and kill others.
Is that OK in the eyes of your religion?
Can they be forgiven? Is it an automatic pass because it is war? Etc.
kill or be killed ........ If you don't want to the enemy or the people who are starting the war will come and kill your country and everyone you love .Those that go to war for their country and kill others.
Is that OK in the eyes of your religion?
Can they be forgiven? Is it an automatic pass because it is war? Etc.
kill or be killed ........ If you don't want to the enemy or the people who are starting the war will come and kill your country and everyone you love .
a defender has all rights in the universe to defend and kill ........ A killer doesn't
I'm in favor of things in this order:Those that go to war for their country and kill others.
Is that OK in the eyes of your religion?
Can they be forgiven? Is it an automatic pass because it is war? Etc.
Do you realize that you're effectively encouraging the Un-Americastanian practice of draft dodging?Killing is killing. Self defense mitigates it somewhat, or defending another individual from an attack in progress, but killing sans direct threat, actually hunting down 'enemies,' is rarely justifiable, and killing on orders from an authority is all out.
How is a drive-by shooting on orders from a Mafia capo or Crips leader any different, morally, than an army attacking a neighboring country on orders from a government?
Where does a government get the authority to order someone to do something that would be a crime if an individual did it on his own volition? Aren't we individually responsible for our actions? How can a government or superior officer take responsibility for another's actions?
Your government or captain is not Jesus. The sin is on you weather you commit it on your own or are ordered by an authority.
Jump off a bridge and your just as dead weather you did it on your own or did it under orders.