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Featured Jesus and Pantheism

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Fool, Aug 20, 2019.

  1. Desert Snake

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    Anyways, note how 'pantheism' doesn't work as a definition.

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    But Jesus never claims to be the only one with the Father.
     
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    the quote states that all things are christ an christ is in all

    doesn't get more absolute than that.
     
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    colossians three 11 says it is god.


    christ is all

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    christ is in all
     
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    you created god as separated by your statement. the bible doesn't state god is separate. you have limited god to "your" self and other self.


    Jeremiah 23:24
     
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    god cannot be transcendent. that would be god separated from itself in some aspect, God is ONE.


    panentheism is dualism
     
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    That's interpretational. Pantheism isn't traditional for Biblical belief, for a reason.
     
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    You might argue that our 'god' is different, in other words, you are using texts in a certain format, therefore this is merely 'different god beliefs'.
    Which although true, Biblical religion isn't traditionally pantheistic, and, it isn't pantheistic for a reason.
     
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    But yet not all are Christ.
     
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    yes, not all recognize they are christ. not all are of the same mind, or at least don't believe they are.

    that is what the name implies. the name that one is immersed into spiritually, mentally
     
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    in my opinion, the Father is panentheist, and the Son is pantheist.
     
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    Nor is everyone Jesus. I think you’re stretching the theology to be something it just isn’t.
     
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    I don’t see how transcendence = separation.
     
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    God is one 'god', not 'everything'. In other words, you haven't got the right ideas, because you are trying fo figure that out, using a faulty premise.
     
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    no. you're just trying to redefine words to fit your beliefs.


    everywhere literally means always where and always means all
     
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    transcendence literally means above something. god isn't above as explained by the bible. god is everywhere
     
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    God is described in several different ways in the Bible, depending on the book and the intended audience. There’s a place where God was described as not found in the earthquake or the windstorm. Biblically, God is described as both transcendent and imminent. God is described as both particular and nowhere.
     
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