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Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Fool, Aug 20, 2019.

  1. Fool

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    i'm not a believer. i'm not an agnostic. i'm a gnostic. aham brahmasmi


    and when i found I AM then all will be.


    nataraja dances in my heart. the Lord is with me.




     
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    No, where did you get that idea?
     
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    No, because God is also imminent. God is present in creation. I think you’re confusing perfection with position. God is perfect; creation is very good. Creation can reflect God and show God; it cannot be God.
     
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    Great for you. But it’s still a human construct.
    In my understanding, all humanity is being brought into right relationship with the Divine.
     
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    that can't happen when god is otherwise, and not omnipresent. that god is above it all and never shall the twain meet.


    "Oh, East is East, and West is West, and never the twain shall meet."


    people create differences out of their own minds and believe them to be absolutely true.
     
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    only love is perfect. only love covers all sins


    proverbs 10:12


    deuteronomy 30:6


    behold i make all things new


    ezekiel 11:19

    ezekiel 36:26

    revelation 2:17
     
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    You’re missing my point. This isn’t about position.
     
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    there is not position except when something is above/below something.


    the omnipresence of god is neither here vs there but is everywhere

    it has nothing to do with spacial position

    nor is god past or future but everpresent here and NOW.


    time and space are an illusion that love transcends
     
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    Then why do you keep insisting that I’m saying God is somewhere else?
     
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    they are contrasted and objects. the bibles states emphatically that god is not a man


    Numbers 23:19
    God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?


    how do binitarians twist that one?
     
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    Who said that God was a man?

    If you mean jesus, that would be the 'over-self', the Lord. Not a man.

    Now, in christian context, the nature of this makes a man, god, however it isn't directional, going the other way.

    we could say that you are talking about a certain type of Catholic belief? I don't know, however that wouldn't even match standard Christianity.
     
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    Imminence and presence stand in contrast.
     
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    Only if you have some offbeat definition I’m unaware of in a theological context.
     
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    What do you understand from the usage of "kingdom"?
     
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    all things are god. thus the name at exodus 3:14
     
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    self is the kingdom and the occupant, self is the temple and the spirit.....

    a man's home is his castle


    1 Corinthians 6:19
     
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    Thats not what is meant by Kingdom of God in lets say Luke 17.
     
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