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Is The Hell Fire Justice

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by ~Amin~, Aug 30, 2007.

  1. ~Amin~

    ~Amin~ God is the King

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    Peace be unto you.
    Ive been a new muslim for five year(all Praises to God Alone),
    and i feel the same way.
     
  2. MaddLlama

    MaddLlama Obstructor of justice

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    A non-Muslim is a non-believer.

    I'd still like to know where it says this in the Quran.
     
  3. ~Amin~

    ~Amin~ God is the King

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    Can you show me were i said its in the Qur'an?
     
  4. MaddLlama

    MaddLlama Obstructor of justice

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    If it isn't, then how do you know it's true?
     
  5. ~Amin~

    ~Amin~ God is the King

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    Islamic law is not confined in the Holy Qur'an alone,
    it could also be within the statements of the holy prophet,
    or his companians, or the interpretation of the
    mainstreme , orthadox muslim scholars .
     
  6. MaddLlama

    MaddLlama Obstructor of justice

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    Ok, then who said it, and how do you know it's true?
     
  7. ~Amin~

    ~Amin~ God is the King

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    Its a commentary by Said Nursi.
     
  8. MaddLlama

    MaddLlama Obstructor of justice

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    Do all Muslims believe that everything said was truth?
     
  9. ~Amin~

    ~Amin~ God is the King

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    I dont believe all muslims know him
    but i do know that theres non muslims
    who agree with him.
    O LORD AND SUSTAIER OF ALL THE WORLDS;
    O OWNER OF THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT;
    O HE WHO LOVES THE PATIENT;
    O HE WHO LOVES THE PENITENT;
    O HE WHO LOVES THE PURIFIED;
    O HE WHO LOVES THE DOES OF GOOD:

    O HE WHO IS BEST OF HELPERS;
    O HE WHO DISTINGUISHES MOST EXACTLY;
    O HE WHO ACCEPTS THANKS IN THE BEST WAY;
    O HE WHO KNOWS BEST,
    THE SPREADERS OF CORRUPTION-

    GLORY BE UNTO THEE, THOU ART WITHOUT
    PARTNER OR FAULT! THERES NO gOD BUT THEE!
    MERCY, MERCY, RESCUE US FROM HELL-FIRE.
     
  10. mcteethinator

    mcteethinator Idiosyncratic Muslim

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    Not true.

    A non-monotheist is a non-believer by Islam's interpretation.
     
  11. logician

    logician Well-Known Member

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    There is no heaven or hell, neither is even well supported biblically, both myths grew more from dogma pushed much later in the evolution of the Christian church.
     
  12. ~Amin~

    ~Amin~ God is the King

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    If you look back through this thread youll
    see the clear biblical verses.
     
  13. Hacker

    Hacker Well-Known Member

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    How does the biblical versus justify proof on anything?:confused::areyoucra
     
  14. ~Amin~

    ~Amin~ God is the King

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    I didnt say it proves anything i just replied to
    the individual who was saying theres no
    biblical evidence when there are many.
     
  15. Hacker

    Hacker Well-Known Member

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    Your saying that yes, hellfire is justice, but how can you even prove that there is a hell?:areyoucra
     
  16. Ronald

    Ronald Well-Known Member

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    Since "Ever burning Hell" is manmade! Find me a biblical reference to God putting anyone in hell!
    Too bad you can't read Hebrew and see that God didn't commit any atrocities, freaking or otherwise.
    Just a little clue, the soul is not "Immortal".

    Shalom u'vrachot
     
  17. Darkness

    Darkness Psychoanalyst/Marxist

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    I am well aware there are none.

    God did not send plagues upon Egypt? God did not tell Saul to "go and smite Amalek?
     
  18. Ronald

    Ronald Well-Known Member

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    Didn't He send Moshe to ask Egypt to release his people nicely! And didn't Egypt ask for the punishment it got?
    Yes He did! Do you remember why? I do. They also had a good choice to make and chose unwisely!
    When you play Russian Roulette, chances are you will end up dead.
    Just choose wisely! God is not a spiteful God! God is love.

    Shalom u'vracha
     
  19. ~Amin~

    ~Amin~ God is the King

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    Sorry just got home.
    Well i guess your saying since we cant see it i cant prove it.
    But i believe i can,
    1. i cant see you right now but ypur there arnt you?
    2.cant see the wind but i see the tree's move.
    3.cant see radio waves but i can speak on the mobile phone.
    4.cant see the gravity but im not floating in the air .
    5.when i look at the sky cant see the planets or ozone layer or the black holes
    but they all exist.
    6.cant see God but he moves the hearts of His servants with His Fingers.
    so my dear friend you get the point likewise Hell is also a reality.
    Now lets get ready for the philosophers and there remarks.
     
  20. love

    love tri-polar optimist

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    Must prayer be conducted in a group? When we are in this situation we are listening to the speaker tell us what God wills. Don't sell your self short. God can talk to you too.
     
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