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Is The Hell Fire Justice

MaddLlama

Obstructor of justice
Dear MaddLlamma
you also misquoted me here ,
I said those people who reject God as being Creater,
Maintainer,Cherisher of the Universe, i didnt
say non-muslims i said non-believers.
Peace

A non-Muslim is a non-believer.

I'd still like to know where it says this in the Quran.
 

~Amin~

God is the King
If it isn't, then how do you know it's true?
Islamic law is not confined in the Holy Qur'an alone,
it could also be within the statements of the holy prophet,
or his companians, or the interpretation of the
mainstreme , orthadox muslim scholars .
 

MaddLlama

Obstructor of justice
Islamic law is not confined in the Holy Qur'an alone,
it could also be within the statements of the holy prophet,
or his companians, or the interpretation of the
mainstreme , orthadox muslim scholars .

Ok, then who said it, and how do you know it's true?
 

~Amin~

God is the King
Do all Muslims believe that everything said was truth?
I dont believe all muslims know him
but i do know that theres non muslims
who agree with him.
O LORD AND SUSTAIER OF ALL THE WORLDS;
O OWNER OF THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT;
O HE WHO LOVES THE PATIENT;
O HE WHO LOVES THE PENITENT;
O HE WHO LOVES THE PURIFIED;
O HE WHO LOVES THE DOES OF GOOD:

O HE WHO IS BEST OF HELPERS;
O HE WHO DISTINGUISHES MOST EXACTLY;
O HE WHO ACCEPTS THANKS IN THE BEST WAY;
O HE WHO KNOWS BEST,
THE SPREADERS OF CORRUPTION-

GLORY BE UNTO THEE, THOU ART WITHOUT
PARTNER OR FAULT! THERES NO gOD BUT THEE!
MERCY, MERCY, RESCUE US FROM HELL-FIRE.
 

logician

Well-Known Member
There is no heaven or hell, neither is even well supported biblically, both myths grew more from dogma pushed much later in the evolution of the Christian church.
 

~Amin~

God is the King
There is no heaven or hell, neither is even well supported biblically, both myths grew more from dogma pushed much later in the evolution of the Christian church.
If you look back through this thread youll
see the clear biblical verses.
 

Hacker

Well-Known Member
I didnt say it proves anything i just replied to
the individual who was saying theres no
biblical evidence when there are many.
Your saying that yes, hellfire is justice, but how can you even prove that there is a hell?:areyoucra
 

Ronald

Well-Known Member
It is more like being forced to die. Consider this scenario. Three guys are preparing to rape a girl. You know that if you fight these men, you will save the girl, but you will die in the process. If you have any morals and decided to save the girl, no one in their right mind would say you wanted death.

I cannot morally look away from the freakin' atrocities God comitted in the Old Testament (I cannot allow the girl to be raped). I do not want to die, but between death and abandoning all moral deceny, I do choose death.

"God says do what you wish, but make the wrong choice and you will be tortured for eternity in hell. That's not free will. It's like a man telling his girlfriend, do what you wish, but if you choose to leave me, I will track you down and blow your brains out. When a man says this we call him a psychopath. When god says the same we call him "loving" and build churches in his honor." - William C. Easttom II
Since "Ever burning Hell" is manmade! Find me a biblical reference to God putting anyone in hell!
Too bad you can't read Hebrew and see that God didn't commit any atrocities, freaking or otherwise.
Just a little clue, the soul is not "Immortal".

Shalom u'vrachot
 

Darkness

Psychoanalyst/Marxist
Ronald said:
Since "Ever burning Hell" is manmade! Find me a biblical reference to God putting anyone in hell!

I am well aware there are none.

Ronald said:
Too bad you can't read Hebrew and see that God didn't commit any atrocities, freaking or otherwise.
Just a little clue, the soul is not "Immortal".

God did not send plagues upon Egypt? God did not tell Saul to "go and smite Amalek?
 

Ronald

Well-Known Member
I am well aware there are none.



God did not send plagues upon Egypt? God did not tell Saul to "go and smite Amalek?
Didn't He send Moshe to ask Egypt to release his people nicely! And didn't Egypt ask for the punishment it got?
Yes He did! Do you remember why? I do. They also had a good choice to make and chose unwisely!
When you play Russian Roulette, chances are you will end up dead.
Just choose wisely! God is not a spiteful God! God is love.

Shalom u'vracha
 

~Amin~

God is the King
Your saying that yes, hellfire is justice, but how can you even prove that there is a hell?:areyoucra
Sorry just got home.
Well i guess your saying since we cant see it i cant prove it.
But i believe i can,
1. i cant see you right now but ypur there arnt you?
2.cant see the wind but i see the tree's move.
3.cant see radio waves but i can speak on the mobile phone.
4.cant see the gravity but im not floating in the air .
5.when i look at the sky cant see the planets or ozone layer or the black holes
but they all exist.
6.cant see God but he moves the hearts of His servants with His Fingers.
so my dear friend you get the point likewise Hell is also a reality.
Now lets get ready for the philosophers and there remarks.
 

love

tri-polar optimist
Peace
The severe threats and fearsome punishments in the Qur'an concerning
the giving up of worship, they may be likened to a King who in order
to protect his subject' rights, inflicts a servere punishment on an
ordinary manin accordance with the degree that his crime infringes
those rights.

In the same way, the man who gives up worship and prayer is violating
in a significant manner the the rights of beings, who are like the subjects
of the Monarch of Pre-Eternity and Post-Eternity,and is infact acting unjustly
towards them.
For the perfections of beings are manifested through the glorification and
worship performed by that aspect of them which is diected towards there Maker.

The one who abandons worship does not and cannot see this worship. Indeed
he denies it.
Furthermore, beings occupy an exulted position by reason of there worship
and glorification, and each is a missive of the Eternally Besought One,
and a mirror to the Names of its Sustainer.

Since he reduces them from their high and considers them to be unimportant,
lifeless, aimless, and without duties, he is insulting them,and denying and
transgressing their perfections.
Your friend amin.
Peace.
Must prayer be conducted in a group? When we are in this situation we are listening to the speaker tell us what God wills. Don't sell your self short. God can talk to you too.
 
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