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How to Regulate the Porn Industry?

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by Brickjectivity, Nov 20, 2020 at 7:01 PM.

  1. Brickjectivity

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    I was looking around to determine whether I was going to believe claims that porn was addictive, harmful to families, harmful to people, and I found myself on a tangent. Apparently there is widespread agreement that the porn industry is frequently operating outside the law and that porn actors are not treated fairly, but there is not a plan to address it. There is also widespread understanding that regulation of porn is ambiguous and doesn't seem wise to the public in how its being done. Guidance from the courts is bizarre, putting it under the free speech clause.

    Here is one porn actress trying to start up a site that does better, and she says she can't get anyone interested in improving the porn industry:

    We have some extremes in how we regulate porn. Children aren't permitted access to porn magazines in stores, but most children have access to free porn across the internet. There is no automatic protection there, and the porn that's available can include deviant behavior and violence. This concerns some people more than others, but its a schizophrenic approach to regulating porn. Its an all or nothing approach which currently is set to full tilt all mode. It comes from considering porn to be free speech. This confuses the issue. Often we have laws aimed at reducing child access to porn, but they are overturned by courts because of free speech. I don't think porn is free speech. I do think it is a right but not a free speech right and is part of the pursuit of happiness not speech. Court precedents can sometimes seem detached from reality. The courts need to return to the wisdom of upholding the dignity of the court, perhaps do an about face, perhaps be willing to rethink. They are digging themselves into a hole by making too many things equal to free speech.

    The value of porn is what? We can obviously survive without it and apparently have trouble regulating it. Its a pursuit of happiness issue not a free speech issue. It should regulated in a way that children cannot gain access without adult assistance. Its very simple to do that. You simply require adult identification, and you require web sites to require that identification. That isn't happening, because the courts have gone insane on this issue. What cannot be construed as free speech? What behavior, in the end, isn't free speech?
     
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    This world could be better without porn if, instead of looking at porn, people spend an equal amount of time on human relationships.

    Of course, this may be naive thinking on my part.
     
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    Well, if people can watch movies about child abuse, murderers, and people turn to vampires flying naked to have sex with a werewolf, I honestly don't see porn as a big deal.
     
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  4. SomeRandom

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    Porn is an art form as old as humanity. Pushing it underground does nothing but amplify the issues
    Regulate, have workers unions, ID checks for workers and a board to oversee and discipline the industry like any other workforce on eart
     
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    It's true there are abuses and problems within the porn industry, but there is really nothing wrong with porn itself.
    The real issue is no one is supposed be anything more than ambivalent towards it, and you're a perverted delinquent if you have anything positive to say about it. Hence it being very hard to bring any meaningful regulations to it.
     
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    I agree that pushing it underground would have the same effect as not legalizing drugs.
     
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    Exactly. If the prevention is worse than regulation, one should choose the “lesser of two evils” so to speak
     
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    Part of the problem is we can't agree precisely on what porn is. Naked breasts? Why? Naked butts? Why? Naked bodies? Why? Soft penises? Hard penises? vaginas? We all have one or the other or both. Why are they bad? Sex? Why? it's a natural part of life...you can't even have life without it. Sure, there needs to be more protection regarding children on the internet.......who gets to regulate? The internet is worldwide.
     
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    Basically.
     
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    given the social distancing, look but no contact, is it any wonder why such things flourish?
     
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    And all have to collectively just admit we had polariods and magazines before the internet and cell phones. We didn't sext in high school because high schoolers with cell phones still wasn't a thing yet. We just passed hand written notes like those before us. At times I think some people are just jealous because it's easier today.
     
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    Lmao now I’ve just imagined COVID safe porn. Two people in hazmat suits trying to make out :D
     
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    The internet enables you to "pass a note" half way around the world to a complete stranger.....quitte a change.
     
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    It's true, but we have to remember teens are teens. At the core, we weren't acting any differently. We just didn't that frontier and territory to worry about (and good thing. I hated everyone enough as it was without there being a Facebook or anything like it).
     
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    Porn is people doing what people do. The only difference is that in porn, you put it on film for other people to watch.

    Interestingly, we do the same with crime --make films for people to watch. And we do it for orphans (see Annie), and for besotted old men who don't know what they want (see Death in Venice).

    What's the big deal?
     
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    What? ... and stop my buddy Mick from making same $$$?
    We need to open the doors for our young friends and not hinder them from creating social media sites, where young people can meet total strangers randomly selected for them, and exchange pictures., and when it is so obvious, that even the youngest child who don't even know how to spell their name, much less fill a captcha, can access a site without registration, and see pictures of people without clothes... and worst, it's because there is a glitch in the system, too big to fix.
    I think I see them now [​IMG]
    Welcome to Satan's world. It's clear isn't it? He is its ruler.
    Although many people don't believe that.
     
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    I know it sounds extreme, but I think we should make profiting from sexual content and behavior, illegal. Once the profit motive is gone, the exploitative aspect of porn and prostitution would be all but eliminated.
     
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    Where has that ever worked? Better to just legalize and regulate it and make tax money in the process. This way those we profit by exploiting illicit status cannot profit. And those sorts you don't want profiting from anything, especially when what is banned is far worse than what they do.
     
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    If this is Satan's world he is awesome. People very rarely die of bug bites anymore, and things like polio are unknown to so many. Poverty and starvation has been significantly reduced, and so much of the world has never faced lower odds of dying a violent death and instead dying of complications related to that. We've never had better chances of things like that happening to us. Instead of worrying about little rain causing a poor harvest, we worry about Youtube going down.
    Compared to god's world of superstition, bloodshed, oppression, criminalization of science, and prayers that lend scant and contradicting evidence as to whether they work or not over medicines that have a solid track record of working. Kings who ruled by divine right, and peasants who could hope to do and be nothing else or more. And no choice at all over so many things.
    Satan's world isn't perfect, but it's tons better than the world our ancestor's knew when god was firmly in control.
     
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    This issue goes beyond porn. Social media and regular movies are "gateways" to porn. It isn't like children just stumble on porn or suddenly get an interest in it in most cases. It is that sex is advertised on these other platforms and nudity is normalized. As an anecdote, my first experience with "porn" wasn't watching official porn, but seeing Pamela Anderson nude in Barbed Wire. I think that the solution starts at home. Parents should be more alert to what their children are viewing and should have honest discussions with them about the issue.
     
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