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The only ones intrigued will be those who agree,
Also people who are curious about atheism, people who are becoming disillusioned with their faith, etc.
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The only ones intrigued will be those who agree,
But nothing about the context implies that they're talking about moral goodness.Because of the context.
Something I'm curious about: is there any way an atheist group could call attention to its existence that you wouldn't call "proselytizing"?The billboard I'm taking about can be found in the article below. I don't care so much about it being taken down or not, but rather I'm curious how such a billboard is not proselytizing?
Nebraska Atheist Billboard Promoting “The Good Life Without God” Comes Down Following Complaints
I think it helps certain people, who have Faith that atheism is a religion, to support their worldviews when they can describe anything said by a nontheist as "proselytizing" .Something I'm curious about: is there any way an atheist group could call attention to its existence that you wouldn't call "proselytizing"?
Is that in any way a problem?It's aiming to get people to reconsider their perspectives on atheism: you can be a moral and an atheist.
Is that in any way a problem?
I remember when another ad was rejected for being "too controversial" - it was a bus ad (in PA, IIRC) that just said "atheists." It was funny it got rejected, because it was specifically designed to be the least objectionable atheist ad possible.I think it helps certain people, who have Faith that atheism is a religion, to support their worldviews when they can describe anything said by a nontheist as "proselytizing" .
Tom
Something I'm curious about: is there any way an atheist group could call attention to its existence that you wouldn't call "proselytizing"?
I'd call it trolling, not proselytizing.
Atheism is not a religion, or a Belief. it's a lack thereof
Majority rules. That's America.
That atheists are "without God" is a basic statement of fact. Nowhere does it say "Stop believing in God!"
Read the article. It isn't about bringing new people into the fold, it's about reaching out to other atheist and giving them a sense of community.
It's not proselytizing because they aren't trying to change your belief from believing there is a God to believing there isn't, they just want you to choose to live without God, and call that the "good life".
Then why did the sign come down? Because the majority wanted it down.
Hardly. The interpretations of your evidence has been debunked by every Creation scientist out there.
How is it proselytizing when it's not even trying to persuade anyone, but rather asserting it is possible to have a good life without god? The proselytizing was when others came around and said you have to have god for a good this. The billboard was saying "no, we don't."Splitting hairs. Its proselytizing.
That's one of the issues surrounding this story. Those Christians who complained did threaten to "stop coming by" and cease business with a company that had nothing to do with the billboard. They were so offended that they showed themselves willing to do collateral damage.Nope. Its a matter of economics. If the sign were offensive to enough people, then enough people stop coming by spending their money
Underhill said:Splitting hairs. Its proselytizing.
Who cares if it's proselytizing or not?The billboard I'm taking about can be found in the article below. I don't care so much about it being taken down or not, but rather I'm curious how such a billboard is not proselytizing?
Nebraska Atheist Billboard Promoting “The Good Life Without God” Comes Down Following Complaints
This discussion is about a billboard. Please try not to hijack the thread in your religioius fervor. Thank you.
The only leg you have to stand on here is that it is proselytizing in the same way that advertising for ANYTHING is "proselytizing". Trying to get you to "convert" to using service or product "X,Y,Z." Except that it is still all too easily argued that the sign does not actively try to get anyone to relinquish belief in God. It's an invitation to join a community. Do you really see more? Just because the word "atheist" is used? What if it was a billboard inviting people who like to dress up for comic conventions to all get together and show off their outfits? Is that reaching out and trying to "convert" people into comic-convention-costume-wearers? What if it actually used the word "cosplayers?" Would that be a blatant attempt to "recruit"/"inspire"/"create" more cosplaying individuals?Splitting hairs. Its proselytizing.
The US government is already secular.Of course it is.
It's a semantical game atheists play that they or not a religious world view so they can get government to fund secular views of theirs while blocking others.... am I wrong?
I didn't say what your quote says I did.My comment was a reply. I noticed that you didn't scold the person I was replying to.
I didn't say what your quote says I did.