How is a giant billboard promoting atheism not proselytizing?

[columbus]

However, if the majority had wanted it up it would still be there.

How can you possibly believe that there was any kind of poll done?
The large majority of religious people I know wouldn't care. If they even noticed it they'd shrug, "It's a free country ".
Tom

 

[DavidFirth]

How can you possibly believe that there was any kind of poll done?
The large majority of religious people I know wouldn't care. If they even noticed it they'd shrug, "It's a free country ".
Tom

Like I said, your opinion is noted. I do not care to argue about this anymore.

We'll just have to agree to disagree.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Would a billboard advertising a church be allowed? If so, this billboard should be allowed.

It seems less of an argument (proselytizing) than an advertisement (we are here if you want to visit).

It's more of a statement. If it irritates you that it irritates us, so stop pestering people by the same reason that you don't like to be pestered yourselves.


Will theists ever get the message to please leave people alone and let them live their lives?

If not, don't complain when somebody else puts their own opinions or views on billboards.

Atheist billboards work wonderfully cuz it shows people who they really are. A bunch of intolerant gits.

 

[Valjean]

Majority rules. That's America. If atheists are in the majority this sign stays up and religious signs will come down. It's just the way it is.

No.
It was taken down because a small handful of religious people threatened to boycott the gas station of the billboard's owner.

"The billboard was perfectly fine. The whiners were offended by the existence of atheists in their community. This whole incident suggests that there’s nothing they could have put on the sign advertising their group that would’ve been allowed to stay up."

Tyranny of the majority - Wikipedia

Then why did the sign come down? Because the majority wanted it down.

No -- See above.
A religious minority threatened the sign owner. Rule by intimidation.

 

[DavidFirth]

No.
It was taken down because a small handful of religious people threatened to boycott the gas station of the billboard's owner.

"The billboard was perfectly fine. The whiners were offended by the existence of atheists in their community. This whole incident suggests that there’s nothing they could have put on the sign advertising their group that would’ve been allowed to stay up."

Tyranny of the majority - Wikipedia

No -- See above.
A religious minority threatened the sign owner. Rule by intimidation.

Opinion noted.

 

[Polymath257]

It's more of a statement. If it irritates you that it irritates us, so stop pestering people by the same reason that you don't like to be pestered yourselves.


Will theists ever get the message to please leave people alone and let them live their lives?

If not, don't complain when somebody else puts their own opinions or views on billboards.

Atheist billboards work wonderfully cuz it shows people who they really are. A bunch of intolerant gits.

Who was being the intolerant git here? The ones that put up a billboard that was incredibly polite and simply said that it is possible to live a good life without God? Or the people who complained enough and threatened to boycott a company in order to get the sign taken down?

I vote for the latter.

 

[Valjean]

Nevertheless I encounter atheists on here that try to convert me every day. Don't tell me they don't try to convert people. Many of them hate religion.

Trying to "convert" you, or questioning your ideas?
I think you're being too sensitive. Criticism isn't an attempt to 'sweep you into the fold'.

Opinion noted.

Not an opinion. Read the article.

 

[Polymath257]

Then why did the sign come down? Because the majority wanted it down.

No, it came down because a vocal minority threatened to boycott.

People have the right to speak even if they are not in the majority.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Then why did the sign come down? Because the majority wanted it down.

The article clearly states they took it down because the store it was above was about to get some nasty collateral damage from people threatening to not go there anymore. They didn't even democratically decide it or debate it or discuss it, they strong-armed their views onto others. The gas station didn't even have anything to do with it, but this angry minority decided it didn't matter, that harming those not involved is not something to be concerned about, and they demanded their views be upheld while other views not be allowed.
And I'll save you the time: "Opinion noted." Even though it's not an opinion. America is not a democracy, we don't govern by "majority rules," it wasn't a majority involved with getting the billboard taken down, and they targeted a business that had nothing to do with it.

 

[DavidFirth]

Trying to "convert" you, or questioning your ideas?
I think you're being too sensitive. Criticism isn't an attempt to 'sweep you into the fold'.

Not an opinion. Read the article.

Opinion noted.

 

[DavidFirth]

The article clearly states they took it down because the store it was above was about to get some nasty collateral damage from people threatening to not go there anymore. They didn't even democratically decide it or debate it or discuss it, they strong-armed their views onto others. The gas station didn't even have anything to do with it, but this angry minority decided it didn't matter, that harming those not involved is not something to be concerned about, and they demanded their views be upheld while other views not be allowed.
And I'll save you the time: "Opinion noted." Even though it's not an opinion. America is not a democracy, we don't govern by "majority rules," it wasn't a majority involved with getting the billboard taken down, and they targeted a business that had nothing to do with it.

Opinion noted.

 

[DavidFirth]

No, it came down because a vocal minority threatened to boycott.

People have the right to speak even if they are not in the majority.

Opinion noted.

 

[Polymath257]

Opinion noted.

And ignored. Evidence also ignored. In fact, anything that you disagree with is labeled an opinion and ignored.

 

[DavidFirth]

And ignored. Evidence also ignored. In fact, anything that you disagree with is labeled an opinion and ignored.

Hardly. The interpretations of your evidence has been debunked by every Creation scientist out there. But you have chosen to put your faith in scientists and their interpretation of the evidence.

Do you not realize that today the theory stands among secularists but tomorrow it could very well fall? That's what happens with most all scientific theories.

 

[Polymath257]

Hardly. The interpretations of your evidence has been debunked by every Creation scientist out there. But you have chosen to put your faith in scientists and their interpretation of the evidence.

Do you not realize that today the theory stands among secularists but tomorrow it could very well fall? That's what happens with most all scientific theories.

Opinion noted.

 

[DavidFirth]

Opinion noted.

Thank you for noting my opinion.

 

[columbus]

Like I said, your opinion is noted. I do not care to argue about this anymore.

We'll just have to agree to disagree.

Well, Bless Your Heart!

Tom

 

[DavidFirth]

Well, Bless Your Heart!

Tom

Thank you. (I'll be nice and assume you intended no sarcasm. )

 

[Polymath257]

Hardly. The interpretations of your evidence has been debunked by every Creation scientist out there. But you have chosen to put your faith in scientists and their interpretation of the evidence.

Do you not realize that today the theory stands among secularists but tomorrow it could very well fall? That's what happens with most all scientific theories.

Is this a discussion of creationism? No.

It is a discussion of whether an atheist group should be allowed to put up a billboard without others threatening to boycott the gas station where the billboard is located.

 

[sayak83]

Is this a discussion of creationism? No.

It is a discussion of whether an atheist group should be allowed to put up a billboard without others threatening to boycott the gas station where the billboard is located.

They have a right to boycott as well. It can be argued that a customer should not be bombarded with ideological message while purchasing a service in a shop. Applies to Christian billboards as well.