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How have liberals and feminists addressed the sad fact that 23 million more girls aborted than boys

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by whirlingmerc, Sep 22, 2019.

  1. whirlingmerc

    whirlingmerc Well-Known Member

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    In the world there is a great deal of gender specific targeting of unborn girls but feminists and liberals are fairly quiet about this. Why might that be.

    What does AOC say on that? I tried some searches and doesn't seem she has ever commented on it.... remarkable as she comments on everything else... It is a rather sobering abortion issue

    23 million for unborn girls aborted a year than boys in India and China sounds like a rather large number.
     
  2. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    Ha, ha... I'm a boy. I'm on the winning team. Again. :)
     
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    I am pro-choice.

    *shrugs*

    Besides,
    https://c-fam.org/friday_fax/study-finds-23-million-females-missing-due-sex-selective-abortion/
     
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    So what is the radical right doing about it, besides trying to blame it on liberals? Or is the R.R. pleased with it?

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  5. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Greased up & ready for action!
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    I don't see abortion as evil, sinful, wrong or illegal.
    I also don't oppose there being disparate effect,
    because to eliminated would require more government
    intervention than I want.
    Also, India & China are other countries, where I've no
    control over what they do.
     
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    Abortion is an unfortunate fact of life for the whole history of humanity. It has nothing to do with liberals and feminists. The ancient convents of Europe had graves of thousands of aborted infant skeletons. Nothing new here in human history. It is the inequality of medical care today that does contribute to the problem
     
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    Sex selective abortions are already illegal in the US. Are you asking why we aren't trying to force a policy change on China? Because that should be fairly obvious.
     
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    An article from the Guttmacher Institute dated Sept 1, 2019 says that

    "9 states ban abortions for reason of sex selection at some point in pregnancy,"
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    implying that in 41 states such abortions are legal.

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    Interesting. I stand corrected. In fact, doing some further research seems to imply that there's a lot of problems with the bans, that they don't work and profile groups of people the numbers don't reflect anyway.

    Let’s Be Real—Sex-Selective Abortion Bans Are False Solutions

    Seems like we should be focusing on banishing the notion that male children are more preferable than female children, rather than trying to limit abortion as the OP would.
     
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  10. crossfire

    crossfire Antinomian feminist heretic freak ☿
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    Sex-selective abortions don't seem to be a problem in the United States.
    male to female birth ratio.png
     
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    crossfire Antinomian feminist heretic freak ☿
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    The natural birth rate for humans is slightly skewed towards males, with about 1.05 to 1.06 male births per female births, or approximately 51.22 to 51.45 percent male to female ratio. The US seems to trend ever slightly more towards the female births side than the natural birth rate. (Very slightly fewer males born than the natural rate.)
     
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    crossfire Antinomian feminist heretic freak ☿
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    I went and checked the male to female birth ratio in both Mexico and Canada, which have both held steady at around 1.05 males to females born from 1962 to the present, which is right at the natural human rate, so there does not appear to be any trend of sex-selective abortions in all of North America in the past 57 years.
    Sex ratio at birth (male births per female births) | Data
     
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    I don't see what one has to do with the other. Why do liberals and feminists, or AOC need to "address this"? Are you imagining that they are somehow promoting it? Because I'm quite sure they are not. That would be like accusing gun rights advocates are promoting murder.
     
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    I dunno. Maybe the OP is concerned over the dwindling supply of mail order brides from these areas and doesn't want to admit it?
     
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    Really? How did you find out about it then?

    Probably exactly as much as Trump has. I wouldn’t expect domestic American politicians to comment on issues that largely relate to foreign countries, not least because Americans generally don’t care much about foreigners, regardless of their politics.

    It isn’t 23 million a year, that figure is based on a review of population figures from 1970 to 2017. It’s primarily an issue in India and China, though there are other countries too, it’s just that they have such massive populations. There have been efforts to address the issue over the years, both local and international, and some evidence of movement in the right direction as a result though there is clearly a lot more to do (Sex-selective abortions may have stopped the birth of 23 million girls).

    How are you offering to help? I mean, I presume you raised the question because it’s an issue you feel strongly about and not just as a tool to play petty domestic partisan games with? :cool:
     
  16. ChristineM

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    So are right wing men. Interesting you have bot chosen to include them... Its almost as though you are pushing your personal political agenda
     
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    sun rise "Let there be peace and love among all"
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    Being against abortion does not necessarily mean wanting to make it illegal. How about better education, health care and free birth control as countermeasures.
     
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    They do not address this because there countries do not offer the same opportunity, as the USA, to manipulate deep pockets and get preferential treatment.

    These same two groups do not complain about the treatment of women in Muslim countries, since there is no potential for personal gain by this. The fake concern only works in places where the liberals have distorted the minds of the masses, with fake news, educational indoctrination, political bias, and Hollywood driven social engineering.

    The latest left wing scam is the idea of many genders, beyond biological male and female. This idea was not developed by science, but rather by the same scam machine. Science did not start this so it needs to be questioned.

    Science is not self sufficient with respect to resources. Science is mercenary and depends on other groups for it's funding; government, business and universities. The scam machine buys or pressures to get biased research, from mercenary science, to assist in this latest scam. Once the scam stage is set, then the salesmen scammers; political activists, come in to take advantage, This sales procedure will not work in other countries where the stage is not yet set; China, India and Middle East and Africa. The con job tends to stay isolated only where the stage is in place.

    Luckily, Trump is messing up the infrastructure of the scam machine starting with fake news. Had fake news been able to successfully set the stage for a Russian collusion scam, the salesmen and saleswomen would have been selling used cars right now. It took a lot of effort to fight the illusion since so many people have gotten used to the procedure. Now, we have an opportunity to dismantle the stages since the curtain has been pulled away.
     
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    Last time I checked, "liberals" and "feminists" had remarkable little traction in India or China. The whole world is not like the United States, you know.
     
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    Some left-wingers (like me) are against abortion. So your post should say "some/most liberals" :)
     
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