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How have liberals and feminists addressed the sad fact that 23 million more girls aborted than boys

whirlingmerc

Well-Known Member
In the world there is a great deal of gender specific targeting of unborn girls but feminists and liberals are fairly quiet about this. Why might that be.

What does AOC say on that? I tried some searches and doesn't seem she has ever commented on it.... remarkable as she comments on everything else... It is a rather sobering abortion issue

23 million for unborn girls aborted a year than boys in India and China sounds like a rather large number.
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
In the world there is a great deal of gender specific targeting of unborn girls but feminists and liberals are fairly quiet about this. Why might that be.

What does AOC say on that?

23 million for unborn girls aborted a year than boys in India and China sounds like a rather large number.

Ha, ha... I'm a boy. I'm on the winning team. Again. :)
 

Phaedrus

Active Member
I am pro-choice.

*shrugs*

Besides,
The authors cite son preference and the availability of prenatal sex diagnosis, combined with the accessibility of sex-selective abortion, as the main drivers of the skewed ratios.

While the authors don’t mention China’s one-child policy explicitly, they implicitly recognize its devastating impact. They describe a “squeezing effect” of small family size preference on sex ratios. The authors explain that “sex-selective abortion provides a means to avoid large families while still having male offspring.”

The authors also explain that a necessary condition for the prevalence of sex-selective abortions include “a large tolerance for induced abortion from both the population and the medical establishment,” the availability of technologies for early sex detection, and the availability of abortion in later stages of pregnancy.

The study is limited to 90 countries of out of a total of 212, which the authors identified as possessing statistical data on sex ratio for the period between 1950 and 2017.

It remains unclear if the findings of the study will have an impact on short and long-term demographic projections.

According to an interview with the lead author of the study, Fengqing Chao, in online magazine Wired, sex ratio is a major factor in such projections. But Lyman Stone, a demographer and fellow at the American Enterprise Institute told the Friday Fax that he did not think it would impact population forecasts.

https://c-fam.org/friday_fax/study-finds-23-million-females-missing-due-sex-selective-abortion/
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
In the world there is a great deal of gender specific targeting of unborn girls but feminists and liberals are fairly quiet about this. Why might that be.

What does AOC say on that? I tried some searches and doesn't seem she has ever commented on it.... remarkable as she comments on everything else... It is a rather sobering abortion issue

23 million for unborn girls aborted a year than boys in India and China sounds like a rather large number.
So what is the radical right doing about it, besides trying to blame it on liberals? Or is the R.R. pleased with it?

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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
In the world there is a great deal of gender specific targeting of unborn girls but feminists and liberals are fairly quiet about this. Why might that be.

What does AOC say on that? I tried some searches and doesn't seem she has ever commented on it.... remarkable as she comments on everything else... It is a rather sobering abortion issue

23 million for unborn girls aborted a year than boys in India and China sounds like a rather large number.
I don't see abortion as evil, sinful, wrong or illegal.
I also don't oppose there being disparate effect,
because to eliminated would require more government
intervention than I want.
Also, India & China are other countries, where I've no
control over what they do.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
In the world there is a great deal of gender specific targeting of unborn girls but feminists and liberals are fairly quiet about this. Why might that be.

What does AOC say on that? I tried some searches and doesn't seem she has ever commented on it.... remarkable as she comments on everything else... It is a rather sobering abortion issue

23 million for unborn girls aborted a year than boys in India and China sounds like a rather large number.

Abortion is an unfortunate fact of life for the whole history of humanity. It has nothing to do with liberals and feminists. The ancient convents of Europe had graves of thousands of aborted infant skeletons. Nothing new here in human history. It is the inequality of medical care today that does contribute to the problem
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
Sex selective abortions are already illegal in the US. Are you asking why we aren't trying to force a policy change on China? Because that should be fairly obvious.
An article from the Guttmacher Institute dated Sept 1, 2019 says that

"9 states ban abortions for reason of sex selection at some point in pregnancy,"
source
implying that in 41 states such abortions are legal.

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ADigitalArtist

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
An article from the Guttmacher Institute dated Sept 1, 2019 says that

"9 states ban abortions for reason of sex selection at some point in pregnancy,"
source
implying that in 41 states such abortions are legal.

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Interesting. I stand corrected. In fact, doing some further research seems to imply that there's a lot of problems with the bans, that they don't work and profile groups of people the numbers don't reflect anyway.

Let’s Be Real—Sex-Selective Abortion Bans Are False Solutions

Seems like we should be focusing on banishing the notion that male children are more preferable than female children, rather than trying to limit abortion as the OP would.
 

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic ☿
Premium Member
Sex-selective abortions don't seem to be a problem in the United States.
male to female birth ratio.png
 

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic ☿
Premium Member
The natural birth rate for humans is slightly skewed towards males, with about 1.05 to 1.06 male births per female births, or approximately 51.22 to 51.45 percent male to female ratio. The US seems to trend ever slightly more towards the female births side than the natural birth rate. (Very slightly fewer males born than the natural rate.)
 

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic ☿
Premium Member
I went and checked the male to female birth ratio in both Mexico and Canada, which have both held steady at around 1.05 males to females born from 1962 to the present, which is right at the natural human rate, so there does not appear to be any trend of sex-selective abortions in all of North America in the past 57 years.
Sex ratio at birth (male births per female births) | Data
 

PureX

Veteran Member
In the world there is a great deal of gender specific targeting of unborn girls but feminists and liberals are fairly quiet about this. Why might that be.

What does AOC say on that? I tried some searches and doesn't seem she has ever commented on it.... remarkable as she comments on everything else... It is a rather sobering abortion issue

23 million for unborn girls aborted a year than boys in India and China sounds like a rather large number.
I don't see what one has to do with the other. Why do liberals and feminists, or AOC need to "address this"? Are you imagining that they are somehow promoting it? Because I'm quite sure they are not. That would be like accusing gun rights advocates are promoting murder.
 

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic ☿
Premium Member
I don't see what one has to do with the other. Why do liberals and feminists, or AOC need to "address this"? Are you imagining that they are somehow promoting it? Because I'm quite sure they are not. That would be like accusing gun rights advocates are promoting murder.
I dunno. Maybe the OP is concerned over the dwindling supply of mail order brides from these areas and doesn't want to admit it?
 

HonestJoe

Well-Known Member
In the world there is a great deal of gender specific targeting of unborn girls but feminists and liberals are fairly quiet about this.
Really? How did you find out about it then?

What does AOC say on that? I tried some searches and doesn't seem she has ever commented on it.... remarkable as she comments on everything else... It is a rather sobering abortion issue
Probably exactly as much as Trump has. I wouldn’t expect domestic American politicians to comment on issues that largely relate to foreign countries, not least because Americans generally don’t care much about foreigners, regardless of their politics.

23 million for unborn girls aborted a year than boys in India and China sounds like a rather large number.
It isn’t 23 million a year, that figure is based on a review of population figures from 1970 to 2017. It’s primarily an issue in India and China, though there are other countries too, it’s just that they have such massive populations. There have been efforts to address the issue over the years, both local and international, and some evidence of movement in the right direction as a result though there is clearly a lot more to do (Sex-selective abortions may have stopped the birth of 23 million girls).

How are you offering to help? I mean, I presume you raised the question because it’s an issue you feel strongly about and not just as a tool to play petty domestic partisan games with? :cool:
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
In the world there is a great deal of gender specific targeting of unborn girls but feminists and liberals are fairly quiet about this. Why might that be.

What does AOC say on that? I tried some searches and doesn't seem she has ever commented on it.... remarkable as she comments on everything else... It is a rather sobering abortion issue

23 million for unborn girls aborted a year than boys in India and China sounds like a rather large number.

So are right wing men. Interesting you have bot chosen to include them... Its almost as though you are pushing your personal political agenda
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Being against abortion does not necessarily mean wanting to make it illegal. How about better education, health care and free birth control as countermeasures.
 

wellwisher

Well-Known Member
In the world there is a great deal of gender specific targeting of unborn girls but feminists and liberals are fairly quiet about this. Why might that be.

What does AOC say on that? I tried some searches and doesn't seem she has ever commented on it.... remarkable as she comments on everything else... It is a rather sobering abortion issue

23 million for unborn girls aborted a year than boys in India and China sounds like a rather large number.

They do not address this because there countries do not offer the same opportunity, as the USA, to manipulate deep pockets and get preferential treatment.

These same two groups do not complain about the treatment of women in Muslim countries, since there is no potential for personal gain by this. The fake concern only works in places where the liberals have distorted the minds of the masses, with fake news, educational indoctrination, political bias, and Hollywood driven social engineering.

The latest left wing scam is the idea of many genders, beyond biological male and female. This idea was not developed by science, but rather by the same scam machine. Science did not start this so it needs to be questioned.

Science is not self sufficient with respect to resources. Science is mercenary and depends on other groups for it's funding; government, business and universities. The scam machine buys or pressures to get biased research, from mercenary science, to assist in this latest scam. Once the scam stage is set, then the salesmen scammers; political activists, come in to take advantage, This sales procedure will not work in other countries where the stage is not yet set; China, India and Middle East and Africa. The con job tends to stay isolated only where the stage is in place.

Luckily, Trump is messing up the infrastructure of the scam machine starting with fake news. Had fake news been able to successfully set the stage for a Russian collusion scam, the salesmen and saleswomen would have been selling used cars right now. It took a lot of effort to fight the illusion since so many people have gotten used to the procedure. Now, we have an opportunity to dismantle the stages since the curtain has been pulled away.
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
In the world there is a great deal of gender specific targeting of unborn girls but feminists and liberals are fairly quiet about this. Why might that be.

What does AOC say on that? I tried some searches and doesn't seem she has ever commented on it.... remarkable as she comments on everything else... It is a rather sobering abortion issue

23 million for unborn girls aborted a year than boys in India and China sounds like a rather large number.
Last time I checked, "liberals" and "feminists" had remarkable little traction in India or China. The whole world is not like the United States, you know.
 

Regiomontanus

Ματαιοδοξία ματαιοδοξιών! Όλα είναι ματαιοδοξία.
In the world there is a great deal of gender specific targeting of unborn girls but feminists and liberals are fairly quiet about this. Why might that be.

What does AOC say on that? I tried some searches and doesn't seem she has ever commented on it.... remarkable as she comments on everything else... It is a rather sobering abortion issue

23 million for unborn girls aborted a year than boys in India and China sounds like a rather large number.


Some left-wingers (like me) are against abortion. So your post should say "some/most liberals" :)
 
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