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Fat aceptance

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Vee, Aug 7, 2022.

  1. Quagmire

    Quagmire Imaginary talking monkey
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    Which it often is.

    And yet, as Mahar pointed out, obesity/over-eating is the leading cause of death in the US.

    There are always exceptions. I can show you a list of people who smoked all their lives and lived to be over 100, including the oldest person who's ever lived and the oldest person living now.

    Does that mean smoking isn't a health hazard?

    Anyway, we weren't talking about just being overweight, we're talking about obesity.

    This from the link you posted, "Above 31% body fat is considered above average, and it’s recommended to try to reduce fat mass at that point".

    Anything over 31% is considered obese, and really, 31% isn't all that much. I think 31% falls below what most people mean when they say someone is "fat".
     
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    How about having a little empathy for the Earth?

    First-world consumerism is by far the most destructive man-made force this planet has ever seen, and our eating habits are the main culprit.
    Eating Our Way to Extinction (2021) - IMDb
     
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    He's 100 percent correct. Sugar coating it doesn't help anyone. And yes, that's a pun.

    One thing that should be clarified...part of the reason is simply that more of what is on the store shelves is highly processed food than 50 years ago.
    But the main reason is seditary lifestyle combined with gluttony.
     
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    Very good and useful and needed video

    Key message:
    Fooling oneself is usually not healthy
     
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    I like my consumerism.
    There are just too many people elsewhere who also want it.
    The solution?
    Fewer people, not attacking those who live well.
     
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    People who live well? You mean like this rakish gent:
    https://www.tlc.com/shows/my-600-lb-life
     
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    I think that's a big part of the problem, affordability and location. All too often neighborhoods are without a healthy choice but with a convenience store close by. There are many farmers' markets in the area and a few years ago they decided to accept 'snap' cards, very popular.

    I think the opposite is true as far as the media is concerned. Its about time people resembled reality. But I find that only applies to commercial interests. When is the last time you saw an older or more heavyset woman on the news desk or giving the weather report? Yet men can be of any age or weight.
     
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    We'll, according to statistics on mental health issues, divorce, drug and alcohol addiction, suicide, etc., Apparently the rest of us living here in the first world aren't doing all that great either.
     
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    Very hard to find fat people in Hong Kong.
    Except for tourists.
     
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    Most I know are doing well.
    Perhaps you should move to Revoltistan?
     
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    Revoltingest Abnormal before it was fashionable
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    You people are indeed tiny.
    Sort of "travel size".
    Modern airliners are designed for you, not us....
    [​IMG]
     
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    It's also very hard to find tourists from Hong Kong here because all the fat people are in the way. :thumbsup:
     
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    Eating doughnuts doesn't make me a hero.
     
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    His writers ought to have put in that what makes Americans overweight is all the sugar and the lies about sugar that were put upon us. We were told to avoid fat and to err on the side of sugar. I was told this from childhood. For decades lay people were lied to about this, so we bought things that said 'Low fat' on them. This made us fat. We bought horrible foods. Bill is striking close to the point that we shouldn't be praising people for being fat, which is true. We shouldn't. He is missing out that we aren't overeating. We were being drugged and told lies up until very recently. Now we do indeed have an obesity problem, and the sugar lie is gradually being exposed. It is being exposed, however every place I go to buy food or to eat is always trying to push pure sugar. The lie has been exposed, but the food vendors want to kill us. They want us caffeinated and craving sugar, and they want us fat and are making it hard to find good food. They gaslight the truth by selling so much sugar.

    By the way @Vee come to the USA and look at the poison that is sold as cereal for children. Its nothing but sugar and food coloring, and it is marketed to children and their parents. Our FDA which supposedly is there to protect us from bad foods is behind it. Sometimes foods in vending machines have 'Heart healthy' stamped onto them, and they'll make you fat and sluggish. As a kid I used to love going to some small shop and ordering an inexpensive 32 oz (about 1 liter) soda and drinking that sweet madness all at once, and nobody told me it was bad for me.
     
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    Point is, according to statistics living the good life doesn't actually equate to living a good life.

    Health and happiness tend to go together. Happy people tend to take better care of themselves, healthy people tend to have a better outlook on life.

    I also have this theory that each one of us here in the first world knows deep down that we're blatantly destroying the planet and that a lot of our toys and goodies are the results of somebody else's misery and that its part of the reason we spend so much of our lives keeping ourselves distracted.

    Doesn't work though. The guilt from all this is there deep down and it affects everything we do.
     
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    I know many healthy people here.
    Some unhealthy ones too.
    I'll reserve some criticism for India & China for
    their massive populations....over 3,000,000,000.
    And they aspire to our more lavish lifestyle.
     
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    I would guess that pretty much everybody does.

    Isn't going to happen though. The Earth can't support the less than 2 billion stuff-junkies it already has.
     
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    I'm another "underweight/proper weight and unhealthy". I'm actually drawn to and have exclusively been with bigger women about a decade now, and while they have their own health issues (often the cause of rather than from weight, like PCOS) its always me that is the sick one, at doctors, changing meds, having surgeries, etc.

    I think the topic illustrates a much larger problem: obsession with others and how they live their lives. People will clutch on to anything which allows them not to look in the mirror.
     
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    And yet....so many people are advocating economic
    expansion, increased immigration, & "family values"
    that mean big families.
     
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