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Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Eddi, Jan 24, 2019.

  1. Eddi

    Eddi Active Member

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    A soul is an individual unit of consciousness.

    My question: Can such a unit of consciousness be divided into (for instance) two separate consciousnesses, or combined with other consciousnesses into a single, greater consciousness?

    I believe this happens all the time and is a feature of how reincarnation works.

    Any thoughts?
     
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  2. Ray Warren

    Ray Warren There is beauty in the silence.

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    I am wondering what people's views on this subject are. I have not thought about it enough to have an opinion but I've always been under the impression that they can't.
     
  3. Unveiled Artist

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    Can you break that up a bit? :) I'm sure there is an answer under the jargon.
     
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  4. Eddi

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    Here’s an analogy:

    We are each like a bottle of water

    Our bodies are the bottles, the water within are our souls

    Each bottle contains a unique collection of individual water molecules – and is therefore unique as it is made up out of unique water molecules

    When the body dies – or the bottle is discarded – what happens to the water (or the soul)???

    Tentatively, I’d sat it’s either poured into a new bottle and all kept together – or mixed into a big tank of water, containing many millions of water molecules that in the past have all been in different bottles, and that out of the tank new bottles are filled with water – each bottle full containing a group of water molecules that in the past were all in different bottles and which have never been together before

    So is the soul a thing that an be broken down (divided) and/or combined with others? Or is it impossible to divide a soul, or to combine it with another one - which would be like mixing together the contents of two bottles?

    Hope this helps?
     
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    means "re-union" with from where we all started the journey of life in the beginning.
    But, a human soul DOES-NOT.

    There are five basic elements of which the whole world is made of;
    Water, Soil, Temperature, Air & Space.

    Human soul has the attributes of all five elements. hence, it is on its final stage to merge into supreme soul/God.
     
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    I think most people would say 'no'. Though none of us could ever really know. It's an interesting concept. Brings a whole new level to the idea of 'karma', though.
     
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    According to the Oversoul 7 trilogy. Fictional piece of work however based on Jane Roberts interaction with her oversoul, Seth.

    I actually only read one of her books but your idea seems the gist of how souls work according to her.
    https://www.amazon.com/Oversoul-Seven-Trilogy-Education-Further/dp/1878424173
    Inspired by Jane Roberts’ own experiences as the author of the immensely popular "Seth" books, these three novels — now collected in one volume — are one of the most imaginative tales ever written. Jane Roberts’ beloved character, Oversoul Seven, an ageless student of the universe, explores the entire framework of our existence. . . . As we follow Seven’s education, our own beliefs about life, death, dreams, time and space are challenged and stretched, leaving us with a refreshing and provocative perspective on the true nature of reality. In The Education of Oversoul Seven, Seven explores the true nature of his being as he learns to communicate with four of his "incarnations" — four all-too-human people whose lives are separated by centuries, yet who also coexist. In The Further Education of Oversoul Seven, the adventure continues with Seven facing new lessons as his human incarnations struggle with the problems of sanity, free will, and even godhood. In the third saga of this exuberant adventure, Oversoul Seven and the Museum of Time, Seven is instructed to take up residence in a human body while also journeying to the Museum of Time in search of the "Codicils." The Codicils are eternal truths that bring about the greatest opportunities for vitality, understanding, and fulfillment. The adventures of Oversoul Seven, are at once an intriguing fantasy, a mind-altering exploration of our inner being, and a vibrant celebration of life
     
  8. Quintessence

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    I don't view a soul/spirit as an individual unit of consciousness, but rather the essence or nature of a subject as a whole (including any physical components, where applicable). Furthermore, a critical component of the nature of a subject is its relationships with everything around it as nothing exists in isolation. This means discrete "units," while present, are less meaningful than I think the narrative in the opening post conveys. The long and the short of it is that "it's complicated" and where you draw the lines is a category exercise one way or another.
     
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  9. WalterTrull

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    Uhmm.. I think you answered your question before asking it by defining soul as individual.
     
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  10. Eddi

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    I believe individuality can be fleeting and temporary
     
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    Actually the body does not contain the soul, the body IS the soul. The Bible says that Adam became a living soul. The same word that is translated as "soul" is also translated as beast or animal or body. Now maybe what you are talking about is the spirit because a person has a spirit. But that is another subject. As far as souls is concerned, body and soul are the same thing.
     
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  12. Eddi

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    OK - in your opinion can a spirit be divided and/or combined?
     
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    About as much as a body can.
     
  14. Vinayaka

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    In my version of Hinduism it couldn't be divided.
     
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  15. Ray Warren

    Ray Warren There is beauty in the silence.

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    Can it be combined then? I don't know much about Hinduism much less about Saivite Hinduism in particular so forgive me if this question is ignorant.
     
  16. Unveiled Artist

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    You got me on a boring day. I think I got it:
    Are you asking when the body dies, does the soul goes into other bodies individually or does the soul combine with other souls to then go to each body individually?

    I don't know about reincarnation, but it makes sense to me to think if the soul goes from the body it would be a "universal consciousness" because there is only one life/reality now and after our bodies are discarded. It's one continuous line. We each have our perspectives of reality via our cultures, religions, and ways of thinking. However, outside of jargon, we are all in one life.

    Some people say we are part of one of many realms. So, when the body dies, our souls goes to different realms or states of consciousness through One life until it reaches non-attachment defined one way or another.

    When one goes into one consciousness after death, it doesn't mean like a heaven or anything like that where all people are joined into bliss. It just means we are in one state of being without dependence of one thing separate than another. A state of being rather than individual souls going from one "bottle" to another.

    Kinda hard to explain since I'm not used to using souls and consciousness to describe spiritual concepts. Poetically, yes (like my signature). I'd have to think of a poetic way to explain it probably.
     
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    Not according to our teachings. There is a final merger though, combined (merged) with God, but I don't think that's what you meant.
     
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    More or less, allow me to re-phrase:

    When our life ends and our bodies cease to be alive is it possible that the spirit (or whatever you want to call it) may be combined with other spirits to produce new spirits or be divided into many spirits - as well as it being possible for it to go straight into a new body without anything happening to it?

    Basically: assuming they normally go straight into a new body, is it possible that after one dies that one's spirit may join with another person's sprit or get broken up into different people?
     
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  19. Ray Warren

    Ray Warren There is beauty in the silence.

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    thank you for answering. Interesting.
     
  20. 12jtartar

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    Eddie,
    There is a Scripture that seems to answer your question about the souls of mankind, Leviticus 17:10-15. The soul of mankind and the souls of animals, as recorded in the Bible, is the whole life of that individual. The Bible, many times speaks of the soul as being the person, or animal, Ecclesiastes 3:18-20, Acts 3:23, 1Thessalonians 5:23, shows that the body, soul and body make up the living being, but there is no life without all three parts. Take away any one and there is no life.
     
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