I always rather liked surah al-hujurat.
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Bad For Jews in the UK?
- Thread starter Ellen Brown
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I'm used to it.Poor baby.
But despite what some might say, I try to keep
my antagonizing down to a merely mirthful level.
(So Jews are safe in Revoltistan...relatively.)
That you seem to have recently moderated your bacon fetish is also appreciated.
I float more like a holstein, & sting like a guernsey.
Israel should make some foreign policy changes...something more peaceful.
You've been away, & missed a resurgence.
Btw, bacon could help with that passive voice thingie.
Notanumber
A Free Man
I have never voted Labour and never will, but I have always admired the way Margaret Hodge performed on the televised Select Committees.
What she said is right and needed saying - Margaret Hodge defends attacking Jeremy Corbyn in emotional article | Daily Mail Online
What she said is right and needed saying - Margaret Hodge defends attacking Jeremy Corbyn in emotional article | Daily Mail Online
Ellen Brown
Well-Known Member
Muslims can eat Bacon if there is no other food. Is the rule the same for Jews?
MrMrdevincamus
Voice Of The Martyrs Supporter
Yea Ms Brown, another fair minded member! Well In my opinion there are two major players, and a few minor players that want to own and make Israel in their own image. The first (for lack of a better word) are secular Jewish concerns, Jewish people that ignore Biblical covenant where God deeds the land to the ancient Jews and their offspring. The other group believe God gave the old land of Canaan to the Jewish people as they left Egypt, ie told in the biblical book of Exodus. These are the Jews and Christians who incorporate the Exodus story etc into their belief system. In my opinion the reason extremists attack Israel is they believe the lies and propaganda of old and modern terrorist groups like ISIS the defunct PLO etc. They rewrite history pass it off as actual truth! The truth s in every library. Those that are interested in such things should research 'near east' (middle eastern) history etc, Biblical Archeology, anthropology and anthropology etc. An Arab Palestine has never existed. The truth is what we call Palestinians today are really Arab refugees of lost war against Israel. Many are Jordanian refugees of the 48' war with Israel.
The Truth about the Palestinian People
Christian antisemitism is mostly confined to a sedevacantist fringe. These days it's usually political, not religious. Both political extremes mind you, that also tend to also be anti-Christian.
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Ellen Brown
Well-Known Member
I am not an expert on the subject. My OP was to talk about here and now in the UK. I take no joy in the suffering of others. You seem to think that the Palestinians are less than human.
The preservation of life is paramount.
exchemist
Veteran Member
But this is the antisemitic far-Left. The Right in the UK is not at all antisemitic.
Im not sure Jews are any worse off than any other non british group at the moment.
Brexit has implanted a wave of xenophobia that was once anathema to culturally diverse and tolerant county.
It makes me weep for the country of my birth.
That is not factual but propaganda posted by the right.
Consider George Stoakley
And here is a pdf dossier on the subject
https://www.google.fr/url?sa=t&sour...FjACegQICBAB&usg=AOvVaw3n4ffGN6OQ98XM4iF-g_gM
exchemist
Veteran Member
Never heard of him.
Ok, shows the cherry picking of data by the right dominated press is working where required
Who is George Stoakley, the Tory under fire for racist tweets?
exchemist
Veteran Member
I see. These were comments by a 19yr old who, five years later was standing as a candidate in a local government election. He has now been suspended of course. So a total non-entity, and illustrative of nothing whatever.
And the fact I had not heard of this is thus hardly evidence of a right wing control of the media. (I see it was actually fully reported in the local Cambridge paper - which obviously I don't read, not living in Cambridge.)
I responded to your quote "The Right in the UK is not at all antisemitic.". My one name and a dossier containing hunreds of anti-Semitic, xenophobic, and racist occurrences shows that statement to be false
Not reported in the big 5 which do have a right wing agenda.
Barclay brothers - right
Lord Rothermere - right
Rupert Murdoch - right
Reach media - right
Richard Desmond - right
Oh and another big circulation in london
Alexander Lebedev - right
The number of news outlets and their readership would seem to indicate so - how many decidedly left-wing ones are there? Most of these have very small readerships - New Statesman, for example. The Mirror, Guardian, and Independent don't add up to much either, if the latter two can be called left-wing.
exchemist
Veteran Member
Your "dossier" contains only three antisemitic remarks by people affiliated with the conservative party and on all occasions it was quickly jumped on by senior figures in the party. In two cases the individual was suspended and in the third he apologised.
So you do not have "hundreds" of antisemitic statements, you have three, (plus one further incident involving a student society.) It seems to me the paltriness of the evidence, and the evidence of the strong reaction to it, make my point for me.
There is no reason why this trivial non-story about the 19yr old should have been reported by the national press. Even the BBC only included it in their regional news section.