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Are You Afraid of Atheism Or Atheists?
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firedragon
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Well, its just bias. Just empty statements. Nothing backed up with anything concrete. We see this quite often. Of course then you have to get agitated and go on a rant. Show empirical evidence to your claims. Then its not bias. Evidence doesn't come from vague statements like "look at this country or look at that country". 7 billion people, thousands of years of history. Analyse it, make a statistical proposition that's valid.
firedragon
Veteran Member
I shall look forward.
I'm just afraid of people being irrational or evil in general.
McBell
mantra-chanting henotheistic snake handler
ROTFLMAO
empty statements?
A 10 second google search:
11 Things Atheists Couldn't Do Because They Didn't Believe In God | HuffPost
In at least seven U.S. states, constitutional provisions are in place that bar atheists from public office and one state, Arkansas, has a law that bars an atheist from testifying as a witness at a trial, the report said.
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The conclusion of this research found that atheists/nonbelievers face a substantial amount of discrimination. They are tied with Muslims as the most hated religious group in America, seven states specifically ban them from holding public office, there are numerous reports of discrimination based off disbelief, and the American public holds mostly negative views on nonbelievers/atheists. The reason behind this conclusion could potentially be because of under representation, prejudices by the dominate religious group, and political/social norms.
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In at least seven U.S. states, constitutional provisions are in place that bar atheists from public office and one state, Arkansas, has a law that bars an atheist from testifying as a witness at a trial, the report said.
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The conclusion of this research found that atheists/nonbelievers face a substantial amount of discrimination. They are tied with Muslims as the most hated religious group in America, seven states specifically ban them from holding public office, there are numerous reports of discrimination based off disbelief, and the American public holds mostly negative views on nonbelievers/atheists. The reason behind this conclusion could potentially be because of under representation, prejudices by the dominate religious group, and political/social norms.
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Atheist residents of "very religious" communities are especially likely to experience discrimination in education, employment and public services such as jury duty, according to Reality Check: Being Nonreligious in America, a survey released this month by American Atheists, a Cranford, N.J.-based nonprofit that advocates civil rights for nonreligious people.
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Sometimes that is better than the right choice. Confusing, isn't it?
firedragon
Veteran Member
McBell
mantra-chanting henotheistic snake handler
I might point out that you appear to be doing the same thing -- you are claiming "bias" but offering nothing whatever in support of your assertion except "7 billion people, thousands of years of history." If you have distilled anything from that to support your assertion of bias, I think it behooves you to present it. At very least, @Mestemia provided numbers for you to look at -- which you do not address except with your claim of "bias."
Aye, those are dangerous things.
McBell
mantra-chanting henotheistic snake handler
I am still looking for the threads that already have a much more in depth research result presentation but when I type "atheist" into the forum search, clicking thread titles only and get 999 pages of results with over 680 of the pages listing thread titles that do not have the word atheist in them.....
I'll forget about the evil, for the moment, and just dwell on the irrational. There's no such thing as the atheist who could even begin to believe in an all-powerful entity who can -- and will -- revivify a dead person, turning the soup in his skull after 3 days into a functioning, multi-trillion connected brain again, but who won't, or can't stop an earthquake or tsunami that tears innocent babies from their mothers' arms and towards certain death.
You want irrational? I can demonstrate it for you.
I don't want to converse with ya.
Yes, I can understand why. I wonder if you can?
That's it? The whole story? How do you stay awake?
ZZZzzzzzZZZZzzzzZZZ.....whuh.....WHUH !!!That's it? The whole story? How do you stay awake?
Look; maybe if someone prays sincerely they can stop a hurricane. "If ye have faith the size of a mustard seed, you can move a mountain."
Maybe it drives human technology to fight hurricane damage.
Maybe it brings people together in a common purpose to defeat the hurricane damage.
Maybe other ways of bringing people together are dissappearing so its necessary.
Maybe those who die from the hurricane don't have it so horrific.
Maybe those who die from the hurricane go to heaven.
I'm not trying to outsmart you evangelical_humanist. I'm not supposed to cast my pearls before swine and you just seem extra sinister against, well, against God.
Well, can you give us an example of the guy with mustard-seed-sized faith that moved a mountain? Or fought hurricanes?
For the record, your thoughts (at least to me) are not pearls, and likewise I am not swine. I can prove I am genetically human, and would prefer you didn't refer to me otherwise.
And you can list all your "maybe this" and "maybe that" until the end of time -- but I can do that, too. "Maybe God is just malicious, and gets a kick out of a few thousand infant drownings once in a while." Show me how you would refute that, using the Bible, or whatever scripture you happen to prefer.
And if I may point out -- if I can prevail against the will of God, then why would I assume that god is of any importance.
And for the record, I am not "sinister." I am a caring, loving, thoughtful human being who has more than the usual amount of concern for my fellows on this planet. And I am rational -- if you think you have something that absolutely makes your God real for me, then share it -- tell me, in your own words. I promise I'll read.
But of course, like you, I can only read through the lenses of my own eyes...
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
No, I love atheists and my husband keeps saying I should be one...
I told him I wish I could, but I just cannot NOT believe in God.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
Sorry, I am not on a diet.